Conner Kent where is his place in the DC Omniverse?

[SuperX]

Hybrids,what do you think of them? Kon was "going to be" a human super clone,but lex changed out just the human dna for both human and kryptonian.Jon was a natural birth of 2 species.Cir-El was a human who had kryptonian DNA grafted to her.

Should they all play by the same hybrid rules,or all different,cause of the different circumstances?

And should hybrids be like invincible,and just have the kryptonian DNA overpower the human and make them just as powerful,or should they be half as kryptonian powerful?

It seems hybrids always have a extra power,should this be the norm?

[the illustrious mr. kenway]

Hybrids,what do you think of them? Kon was "going to be" a human super clone,but lex changed out just the human dna for both human and kryptonian.Jon was a natural birth of 2 species.Cir-El was a human who had kryptonian DNA grafted to her.

Should they all play by the same hybrid rules,or all different,cause of the different circumstances?

And should hybrids be like invincible,and just have the kryptonian DNA overpower the human and make them just as powerful,or should they be half as kryptonian powerful?

It seems hybrids always have a extra power,should this be the norm?

Hybrids should be a mix of their original counterparts, stronger in some aspects, weaker in others.

[witchboy]

A half Kryptonian half human you'd think should be less powerful than a full Kryptonian. The offset could be less of a weakness to Kryptonite - pretty much the way Conner had been written in the past.

[SuperX]

Hybrids should be a mix of their original counterparts, stronger in some aspects, weaker in others.

A half Kryptonian half human you'd think should be less powerful than a full Kryptonian. The offset could be less of a weakness to Kryptonite - pretty much the way Conner had been written in the past.

Personally I don't mind all 3 hybrids being weaker than full bloods,but have their extra power to make up the difference.cir has red sun energy,Jon has Amp,and kon has TTK.

Kon is a Lil unique cause he was going to be a human tweaked to be like a kryptonian with mimicked powers,thst is seperate than what lex.added to him,which is the hybrid Dna.so technically,snd yes I want to get technical,he should have some hybrid powerset through the DNA lex changed out,but also have TTK which was set up to make him.a superman all on its own.

[SuperX]

Btw titans of tomorrow adult Conner could be weaker as a hybrid than superman or Freddy freeman,go back and reread thst story,he has all the kryptonian powers,but at what power level ? We seen how Conner hit him with heat vision and he felt it,and how easy he went down when Freddy finally got a **** in on him.maybe he was alwsys weaker cause he was a hybrid,but made to look massively powerful cause his original power TTK got way more powerful

[SuperX]

If Conner was 50% as powerful as Clark,and that is shown pretty much anytime they scuffle,or kon fights another kryptonian guy,then if Kara is a female,and the average female is just 67% as strong as a man,that means she would still be 17% stronger than kon,which we have seen in the couple times they have gotten into it.

BTW kons TTK,if he is only 50% allows.him to fight,even in short bursts against superboy prime,which means his TTK is really really powerful.

[Thor-Ul]

Question= is Conner more dick Grayson or Jason Todd,in the super family? Are neither ?

I would say he is more Jason. Kara is the Grayson analog to Superman.

[Thor-Ul]

A half Kryptonian half human you'd think should be less powerful than a full Kryptonian. The offset could be less of a weakness to Kryptonite - pretty much the way Conner had been written in the past.

In fiction that could work. But in real life that is no how biology works: the offspring could be full kryptonian (all powers), full human (no powers), some powers (could be strongh but not invulnerable), latent powers (he could absorb solar light but never manifest any power, could be), etc.
There is this myth than two persons of different ethnicities will have offsprings than are a perfect mix of their races and that is not always the case: in many cases they will resemble only one of the parents with traits of the other at other levels. (maybe some lung capacity or something like that).

Now, back to fiction, I wonder, if Conner is half Superman and he has showed the powers, why he never has show a half Luthor manifestation by showing a higher intelligence? Even being half smart as Luthor is pretty much smart, isn't?

[marhawkman]

In fiction that could work. But in real life that is no how biology works: the offspring could be full kryptonian (all powers), full human (no powers), some powers (could be strongh but not invulnerable), latent powers (he could absorb solar light but never manifest any power, could be), etc.
There is this myth than two persons of different ethnicities will have offsprings than are a perfect mix of their races and that is not always the case: in many cases they will resemble only one of the parents with traits of the other at other levels. (maybe some lung capacity or something like that).

Some of the older Super-kid stories had weird twists like that. IIRC in one Superman had two half=Kryptonian children, but one was normal and seemingly as powerful as a Kryptonian under a yellow sun... the other was unable to metabolize yellow sun rays and needed to metabolize light from a binary combination that only existed in a few solar systems.

Now, back to fiction, I wonder, if Conner is half Superman and he has showed the powers, why he never has show a half Luthor manifestation by showing a higher intelligence? Even being half smart as Luthor is pretty much smart, isn't?

Even being half as Smart as Kal-el is smarter than most people! Superman is SUPER SMART!!!!

[SuperX]

Geoff failed Conner when he made him half lex,but not show lex EVER,plus never show anything thst could have come from lex.

Should show Conner being smart,not just epigentic memory smart,but very smart on his own.his brain has the potential to have limitless intelligence if they wrote him that way....but they don't,they want him dumb or atleast the basic guy in the team.

Green eyes
Epigenetic memory
Natural impressive intelligence
Cocky as hell
Has more a fire temper

Show those things and we have a start on actually showing lex was involved.


Btw I like the super hybrids,they should all be seen as some of the most powerful beings on earth,cause let's be real half as powerful as Superman,the most powerful guy ever,and the guy who holds back all the time,half of thst much power is still the top of the hill types,barring of course captain marvel,martian manhunter,etc.


Cir-El had red sun energy manipulation added to her while being grafted with kryptonian dna in the future.

Kon started out as a human clone whose body/DNA was rearranged to be as kryptonian as possible,and who was given a translated version of Superman's bio aura,to mimc the powers they couldn't get from his dna,BUT lex intervened and actually included a superman/Lex cocktail that really did give him that power.so not only did he get the powers from the hybrid kryptonian dna,but from the TTK that was going to be his only power source to make him "A" superman.

Jon is the only hybrid thst didn't have a power engineered and added to being a hybrid.Jon has the same hybrid dna,but his "extra power" comes from his being in the womb,inside a solar system with a yellow sun.he is like a hybrid on steroids,his cells soak the **** up whenever he wants to boost himself more powerful,thsts why as a Lil kid he had powers one minute and not the next,plus why he could boost himself to full blood levels and beyond(future state,or when he punched Orion in a alternate universe).

So they all 3 have extra power for 3 different reasons,but would every hybrid get a extra power ? My answer would be no,cir and kon got theirs in a lab,Jon got his inside this solar system,if he was outside of it,he would just be a 50% hybrid,with no chance to be more than thst.

So which "extra power" is better iyo?
TTK
Red Sun
AMP

[marhawkman]

"better?" That's kinda irrelevant. Having different powers makes the characters interesting.

[manwhohaseverything]

I would say he is more Jason. Kara is the Grayson analog to Superman.

Actually jimmy olsen should be..but,that doesn't fly.

Anyways,this discussion is very much pointless.we are literally arguing what kind of flying brick each of the family members should be.As long as it's that conner,jon or kara or whomever will remain bland in the larger context, i feel..Cause the dc and marvel filled with those.On top of the lack of creativity in atleast presenting said powers.

[SuperX]

"better?" That's kinda irrelevant. Having different powers makes the characters interesting.

I knew I shouldn't have added thst part,cause it would be what was taken from thst big post I just wrote ugh.

Hybrids without certain circumstances = 50% kryptonian level
Hybrids with special abilities = 50% kryptonian level + a fighting chance

[SuperX]

Actually jimmy olsen should be..but,that doesn't fly.

Anyways,this discussion is very much pointless.we are literally arguing what kind of flying brick each of the family members should be.As long as it's that conner,jon or kara or whomever will remain bland in the larger context, i feel..Cause the dc and marvel filled with those.On top of the lack of creativity in atleast presenting said powers.

Conner has been bland as hell,but only because the writers and DC suck and don't want to let Conner be Conner

[SuperX]

More luthor time


Teen Jon isn't going anywhere,and now they are actually gonna explore his AMP power,but they also left the door open for Kon or Clark to find a young Jon who has lost their dad fighting Ultraman,to bring back and be with the super family


I wouldn't mind the comics to explore kon with Megan,,,,,just not the YJ type of Megan.