Rogue & Gambit #1 - Preview

[gonnagiveittoya]

Arakko barely counts as different. They literally used to be the same person.

And the X-Men live in a giant embassy. The Treehouse being part of the nation is literally a plot point in Dark Web

[AppleJ]

Not super thrilled with a drunk Gambit to start us off, but honestly if it's because he's bored to death on Krakoa because Marvel hasn't been able to give him any meaningful purpose on any X-team since Krakoa began with him getting better use on a non-X-book right now, it kinda works for me as meta-commentary.

I do already dig his banter though. It's winning me over in that department and the art is pretty easy on the eyes.

Hopefully Rogue doesn't have to be put in the position to be a total killjoy though. She should have a little sense of fun!

[Kingdom X]

Arakko barely counts as different. They literally used to be the same person.

And the X-Men live in a giant embassy. The Treehouse being part of the nation is literally a plot point in Dark Web

So we’re just moving the bar for our comments… cause you def said no books are set off the island. Also Ewing might as well have not spent the past 10issues defining Arakko as it’s own independent culture with huge differences from Krakoa (literally the islands could not join back together because they’d changed so much), because it’s all the same.

[JB]

I knew that those first pages would not be to most Gambit fans's liking. I hope he get treated a little bit better than that.

Yeah I'm hoping this is just an opening issue moment kinda thing and that's it.

[gonnagiveittoya]

So we’re just moving the bar for our comments… cause you def said no books are set off the island. Also Ewing might as well have not spent the past 10issues defining Arakko as it’s own independent culture with huge differences from Krakoa (literally the islands could not join back together because they’d changed so much), because it’s all the same.

The closest thing weve had to a book not involving Krakoa is X-Terminators and even then the quiet council is a framing device in the whole thing. Even when the characters leave the island they're still talking about it constantly. I hope Fall of X is able to move on from it being the be all end all of the series. Even the New York heroes don't spend every issue talking about Brooklyn

[BobbysWorld]

The closest thing weve had to a book not involving Krakoa is X-Terminators and even then the quiet council is a framing device in the whole thing. Even when the characters leave the island they're still talking about it constantly. I hope Fall of X is able to move on from it being the be all end all of the series. Even the New York heroes don't spend every issue talking about Brooklyn

Yes, but unlike your attempted take here, the NY heroes actually DO spend most of their issues IN New York, so.....

[gonnagiveittoya]

Yes, but unlike your attempted take here, the NY heroes actually DO spend most of their issues IN New York, so.....

They don't never leave their apartments though. For half the Krakoa era it'd be like if every FF issue were only inside the Baxter Building or Spidey literally unable to leave that damn bridge.

Or hell, it'd be like if every story at the X Mansion the characters literally didn't leave the mansion ever

[BobbysWorld]

They don't never leave their apartments though. For half the Krakoa era it'd be like if every FF issue were only inside the Baxter Building or Spidey literally unable to leave that damn bridge.

Or hell, it'd be like if every story at the X Mansion the characters literally didn't leave the mansion ever

LOL okay then. Sure. That's exactly what its like.

And the X-Men live in a giant embassy. The Treehouse being part of the nation is literally a plot point in Dark Web

I mean, you might have a point if in the main X-Men series, they never actually leave the Treehouse and spend all their time in it hence its really not like they're off Krakoa, but they barely spend any time in the Treehouse and are all over the city, the planet, the galaxy, so.....

[thjan]

Yeah, not happy about the drunk Gambit beginning, but we have known about this for a long time now, so I am still hopeful that this is just a one-time thing and Gambit is his usual sober, charming, and highly skilled self for the rest of the series. Not the end of the world by any means, but I could have done without it for sure, and I especially don't want this depiction to catch on with other Marvel writers.

The art is great, but I am also very glad to finally get a preview with text. I was getting a little worried we weren't getting one since it was not released yesterday. I have been really wanting to get even a tiny glimpse of what the writing and dialogue is going to be like in this series. This isn't bad at all, if a bit predictable. The real test of course will be when we get some banter between Gambit and Rogue, and if the recent Philip's interview was any indication, the banter between Gambit and Manifold. I am hoping this truly will be a fun and exciting series with Rogue and Gambit getting up to all kinds of shenanigans throughout the greater Marvel universe while trying to safeguard Manifold.

The art is beautiful and the dialogue is playful. I'm just cautious about this book being too decompressed. 4 pages for a quick fight is a warning.

I am so over the prevalent decompression and shortened page count in modern comics. Even the least decompressed modern comic is nothing compared to the typical comic from the 60s-early 2000s. But that is a general complaint I have with comics as a whole nowadays, and of course nothing I am holding against this comic in particular. But for real, like you said, four pages for this tiny moment. Thankfully this first issue is apparently supposed to be 28 pages, because otherwise this would have already taken us 20% of the way through the book. This is a scene that would have taken up one or, at the most, two pages in the old days, and the rest of the book would have been densely packed with content on all of the rest of the pages too(aside from the occasional double page splash page).

Anyway, sorry for the rant everyone, ha. This is just one of my pet peeves with comics in general these days, and aside from my complaining like the above every once in a while, it is something that I have accepted is not going to change. Believe me, I can still very much find enjoyment in decompressed, modern comics. I just wish they all didn't have to be this way, and that the amount of splash pages per issue could lowered. For example, I certainly didn't need a full page devoted to Rogue posing and saying, "Remy, you're drunk." That kind of thing should be reserved for something special and more dynamic I think.

[gonnagiveittoya]

Did I miss something, is Gambit like a recovering alcoholic because I definitely remember him drinking before now

[anyajenkins]

Yes, true, but the gambit fans are just worried that gambit will be written as constant drunk/screw up and/or useless throughout the series.

[Huntsman Spider]

Yes, true, but the gambit fans are just worried that gambit will be written as constant drunk/screw up and/or useless throughout the series.

Which is something of a fair argument, yes, especially when you consider how Marvel's been doing Spider-Man (Peter Parker), who is supposed to be the flagship hero of the overall Marvel Universe setting, yet he gets constantly portrayed these days as a perennial screwup who can't keep it together in either his civilian or superhero identities. If they could do that (and keep doing that) with him, imagine Gambit's luck, although it's only a preview, so maybe we should at least wait for the full issue to come out first.

[Uncanny X-Man]

Can't say I'm a fan of drunk Gambit, or Rogue's membership with the X-Men being a source for cheap drama where both characters have been part of the X-Men all of their romantic lives... but the art sure is pretty.

[Uncanny X-Man]

Yeah I will probably skip this. Thought it would be impossible but here we are.

No interest in drunk Gambit and Rogue lecturing him after she saves him.

Marvel sure is on fire lately, making me drop books and start looking at other things to read. Currently reading the manga Pluto, thrilling and immersing, just excellent work.

Completely off-topic but as a huge Urasawa fan, I'm very pleased to read you're enjoying Pluto! If you haven't done so already I also highly recommend checking out Urasawa's 20th Century Boys, which is a bit less sci-fi and more grounded than Pluto, but still an absolute masterpiece and totally engrossing and thrilling.

[Nicoclaws]

Which is something of a fair argument, yes, especially when you consider how Marvel's been doing Spider-Man (Peter Parker), who is supposed to be the flagship hero of the overall Marvel Universe setting, yet he gets constantly portrayed these days as a perennial screwup who can't keep it together in either his civilian or superhero identities. If they could do that (and keep doing that) with him, imagine Gambit's luck, although it's only a preview, so maybe we should at least wait for the full issue to come out first.

tbf, that's been like every Spider Man story I've ever read (I don't read about him often, though).