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    Phil Jimenez Pride variant for WW #10

    (Buff Io, godspeed Jimenez)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    Interesting that Sampere is still having a hard time capturing Dianas beauty/strength on the page. He says that's his biggest hurdle.

    WW meets Sovvy in issue 8.

    That's the only "new" information. Rest is a recap of them working through the first 6 issues.

    Zero collaboration between the main book/AA unless Josie has a question.

    Still don't understand that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    * Stuff he's already talked about like each issue being about a different aspect of WW, issue #1 = rebel, issue #5 = sister
    * Sampere realized when he was offered Action Comics is when he was now considered a big artist
    * Lot of discussion about a script by King and how it's interpreted by Sampere. The entire pool room scene in King's script is pretty sparse, stuff like Emelie's entire design is Sampere, the stars every time WW punches something
    * Steve Orlando was the one who gave King the idea of WW being a rebel. Thought it was a key to cracking the difference between her and Superman (and Batman). He did the same with Supergirl.
    * He's moving faster with his plotlines on WW than his natural instinct would be.
    * Sampere finds working on a solo book a lot easier than Dark Crisis. He reined himself in on the battle with the army in issue #2 (not having the tanks explode to imply she was mass slaughtering people).
    * Finds WW challenging to draw. Has the same problems of Superman (look strong but also friendly) but also beautiful and not horny/sleazy.
    * Issue #4 was because Sampere wanted an issue showing WW's empathy, similar to the All-Star Superman page. Idea of being a sick kid was John Cena Make-A-Wish stuff.
    * King has (had?) a series of rules he wanted to follow on the book and "no Wonder girls" was originally one of them. Had his mind changed when he saw people made it known they wanted to see them, followed what Taylor/Redondo have been doing over at Nightwing.
    * Finds WW villains difficult as well, have potential but like WW hampered by several reboots/incarnations.
    * Issue #6 was the easiest thing for Sampere to draw.
    * Lynda Carter Wonder-spin was both their ideas. Sampere used his girlfriend as the model for it.
    * Doesn't dictate the story for Amazon's Attack unless Campbell has a specific question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius View Post
    * Stuff he's already talked about like each issue being about a different aspect of WW, issue #1 = rebel, issue #5 = sister
    * Sampere realized when he was offered Action Comics is when he was now considered a big artist
    * Lot of discussion about a script by King and how it's interpreted by Sampere. The entire pool room scene in King's script is pretty sparse, stuff like Emelie's entire design is Sampere, the stars every time WW punches something
    * Steve Orlando was the one who gave King the idea of WW being a rebel. Thought it was a key to cracking the difference between her and Superman (and Batman). He did the same with Supergirl.
    * He's moving faster with his plotlines on WW than his natural instinct would be.
    * Sampere finds working on a solo book a lot easier than Dark Crisis. He reined himself in on the battle with the army in issue #2 (not having the tanks explode to imply she was mass slaughtering people).
    * Finds WW challenging to draw. Has the same problems of Superman (look strong but also friendly) but also beautiful and not horny/sleazy.
    * Issue #4 was because Sampere wanted an issue showing WW's empathy, similar to the All-Star Superman page. Idea of being a sick kid was John Cena Make-A-Wish stuff.
    * King has (had?) a series of rules he wanted to follow on the book and "no Wonder girls" was originally one of them. Had his mind changed when he saw people made it known they wanted to see them, followed what Taylor/Redondo have been doing over at Nightwing.
    * Finds WW villains difficult as well, have potential but like WW hampered by several reboots/incarnations.
    * Issue #6 was the easiest thing for Sampere to draw.
    * Lynda Carter Wonder-spin was both their ideas. Sampere used his girlfriend as the model for it.
    * Doesn't dictate the story for Amazon's Attack unless Campbell has a specific question.
    I found King describing the theme of joy as being central to his WW run interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius View Post
    Phil Jimenez Pride variant for WW #10

    (Buff Io, godspeed Jimenez)

    At least he drew Io with more muscle.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius View Post
    * Stuff he's already talked about like each issue being about a different aspect of WW, issue #1 = rebel, issue #5 = sister
    * Sampere realized when he was offered Action Comics is when he was now considered a big artist
    * Lot of discussion about a script by King and how it's interpreted by Sampere. The entire pool room scene in King's script is pretty sparse, stuff like Emelie's entire design is Sampere, the stars every time WW punches something
    * Steve Orlando was the one who gave King the idea of WW being a rebel. Thought it was a key to cracking the difference between her and Superman (and Batman). He did the same with Supergirl.
    * He's moving faster with his plotlines on WW than his natural instinct would be.
    * Sampere finds working on a solo book a lot easier than Dark Crisis. He reined himself in on the battle with the army in issue #2 (not having the tanks explode to imply she was mass slaughtering people).
    * Finds WW challenging to draw. Has the same problems of Superman (look strong but also friendly) but also beautiful and not horny/sleazy.
    * Issue #4 was because Sampere wanted an issue showing WW's empathy, similar to the All-Star Superman page. Idea of being a sick kid was John Cena Make-A-Wish stuff.
    * King has (had?) a series of rules he wanted to follow on the book and "no Wonder girls" was originally one of them. Had his mind changed when he saw people made it known they wanted to see them, followed what Taylor/Redondo have been doing over at Nightwing.
    * Finds WW villains difficult as well, have potential but like WW hampered by several reboots/incarnations.
    * Issue #6 was the easiest thing for Sampere to draw.
    * Lynda Carter Wonder-spin was both their ideas. Sampere used his girlfriend as the model for it.
    * Doesn't dictate the story for Amazon's Attack unless Campbell has a specific question.
    I can totally believe that about Orlando knowing how he wrote Diana himself.

    "No Wonder Girls" - so basically most WW runs ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    I found King describing the theme of joy as being central to his WW run interesting.
    Would be very interested to see what those other rules were (are).

    Found the Taylor/Redondo stuff amusing.

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    From my perspective, the lack of Wonder Girls in Wonder Woman's comic has been both puzzling and disappointing. Batman creatives tend to want to expand his universe. Don't know why WW creatives want to compress it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcekada View Post
    From my perspective, the lack of Wonder Girls in Wonder Woman's comic has been both puzzling and disappointing. Batman creatives tend to want to expand his universe. Don't know why WW creatives want to compress it.
    Because they already dont "understand" WW so they can't be bothered by sidekicks as they try to "fix" WW and add their own characters to her supporting cast.

    Plus....too many females in the book. If they were boy wonders... they'd be in there easily

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    I found King describing the theme of joy as being central to his WW run interesting.
    what did he say about joy as the theme of the run?

    btw, Thanks for the recap Gaius

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    what did he say about joy as the theme of the run?

    btw, Thanks for the recap Gaius
    Basically he put the Wonder Girls in the book because people wanted them and because joy is something he intends to explore throughout the run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius View Post
    * Stuff he's already talked about like each issue being about a different aspect of WW, issue #1 = rebel, issue #5 = sister
    * Sampere realized when he was offered Action Comics is when he was now considered a big artist
    * Lot of discussion about a script by King and how it's interpreted by Sampere. The entire pool room scene in King's script is pretty sparse, stuff like Emelie's entire design is Sampere, the stars every time WW punches something
    * Steve Orlando was the one who gave King the idea of WW being a rebel. Thought it was a key to cracking the difference between her and Superman (and Batman). He did the same with Supergirl.
    * He's moving faster with his plotlines on WW than his natural instinct would be.
    * Sampere finds working on a solo book a lot easier than Dark Crisis. He reined himself in on the battle with the army in issue #2 (not having the tanks explode to imply she was mass slaughtering people).
    * Finds WW challenging to draw. Has the same problems of Superman (look strong but also friendly) but also beautiful and not horny/sleazy.
    * Issue #4 was because Sampere wanted an issue showing WW's empathy, similar to the All-Star Superman page. Idea of being a sick kid was John Cena Make-A-Wish stuff.
    * King has (had?) a series of rules he wanted to follow on the book and "no Wonder girls" was originally one of them. Had his mind changed when he saw people made it known they wanted to see them, followed what Taylor/Redondo have been doing over at Nightwing.
    * Finds WW villains difficult as well, have potential but like WW hampered by several reboots/incarnations.
    * Issue #6 was the easiest thing for Sampere to draw.
    * Lynda Carter Wonder-spin was both their ideas. Sampere used his girlfriend as the model for it.
    * Doesn't dictate the story for Amazon's Attack unless Campbell has a specific question.
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    I'm glad that King is open to requests from fans about Wonder Woman and her supporting characters. I'm not saying King should honor every request but if he gets enough requests about the same thing, he should consider them in his long-term plans. Thankfully, he listened about the Wonder Girls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    Basically he put the Wonder Girls in the book because people wanted them and because joy is something he intends to explore throughout the run.
    Maybe I misheard but I didn't quite understand it like that. I more took it to mean that joy was a principle he was using for his own approach as a writer. So instead of drawing things out or holding things back (like the Wonder Girls), he's taking a "give the people whatever brings joy" approach to the title - like including the Wonder Girls, including lots of her rogues etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexLyo View Post
    Maybe I misheard but I didn't quite understand it like that. I more took it to mean that joy was a principle he was using for his own approach as a writer. So instead of drawing things out or holding things back (like the Wonder Girls), he's taking a "give the people whatever brings joy" approach to the title - like including the Wonder Girls, including lots of her rogues etc.
    oh that's interesting

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