Yes - I think Audiences Are Finally Getting Tired Of These Movies
No - This has been wildly exaggerated
Too Early To Say Either Way
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This is a parody of wolverine. almost like aunt may saying peter was not superman in the first film.
I meant an actual crossover the x-men and fantastic 4 movie with major plot points that reoccurred through the series and both movies talking about events of their films.
Fox once thought of a crossover movie after Days of Future Past with the X-Men and F4 IPs for MCU proportions but it never came to be and thankfully it did not. that was the nearest fox ever got to a cinematic universe.
https://screenrant.com/fox-xmen-fant...celled-reason/
It never happened.
Because the current Spider-Man comics are continuing on decades of story. The MCU (and also the non-MCU Spider-Man movies) had him start off in school because that's where his story started. The MCU just kept him there longer than the others did.
You've called it that.
Having an "R" rating isn't automatically indicative of quality. Just because the previous Blade films were R doesn't mean Blade can only be R. There are plenty of dark PG-13 movies out there.
That doesn't mean they know who the director is. It just means they know it's not part of the DCEU. It doesn't take knowing the director to know that.
Highly doubtful. Aside from a few Planet of the Apes movies and Cloverfield (none of which were highly marketed as "from _____ director) he had zero name value before The Batman. And The Batman wasn't successful enough for the general audience to suddenly make him a name director.
And, again, it has zero to do with the MCU. The Joker as a film isn't daring. Something can't be "more daring" than another if it wasn't daring to begin with.
You should remember this for your own opinionated rants sometime.
And before Spider-Man the MCU never crossed over with any other Marvel IPs than what they already had rights to make. So it's the exact same thing.
That doesn't make them not part of a shared universe. Your personal opinions about the MCU doesn't suddenly change what a definition is. The only thing that sort of takes it out of that definition is that they are all done by the same director.
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Look, my favorite live action comic book/superhero movies are The Dark Knight, Super, Kick-Ass, Deadpool, Joker, and the first Iron Man (still feel like the MCU's never topped that movie in quality, and now probably never will). I would love more movies of this style/bent/quality. But I've resigned myself long ago that while I love these movies, they're a blip in the genre. The extremely quippy action comedy (or sometimes quippy comedy action) of the MCU formula is what the GA wants most of all. While my favorite movies do usually wind up popular and all, outside of Iron Man none of them have directed the past decade+ of this genre. It just is what it is.
I'm not saying he makes bad movies. I've liked all of those movies. But to say they were successful enough to where the general movie-going audience knows who he is or will see a movie just because he directed it is ignorant. You have to have a long history of either award winning films or pure garbage for the average moviegoer to know who a director is.
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Besides the cancelled FF crossover due to Fan4Stick flopping. At the time of the Disney Buyout Fox had in various stages development more X-Men movies, Deadpool 3, New Mutants, Gambit, Multiple Man, Kitty Pryde, Alpha Flight, Exiles, & X-Force can we not pretend that the XCU wasn't it's own interconnected cinematic universe and a bunch of films independent of each other.
Sorry, that was meant as a reply to this person, before they moved the goalposts to encompass crossovers with the MCU.
The article you just quoted even lists X-Men: Days of Future Past as "their big crossover movie." Deadpool is undisputedly tied to the XCU given how many X-characters show up, not to mention he himself debuted in X-Men Origins: Wolverine. And that's ignoring that Wolverine solo films are themselves spun-out of the X-Men franchise. Not to mention all the other solo projects that were being considered (Magneto, Gambit, etc...). So while you personally may not acknowledge it, there is/was an XCU.
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I will say Matt Reeves and Jordan Peele are on the same level been household names.
The director of Logan trusted Matt Reeves with Batman. There were some batman fans who wanted james mangold to direct a batman film and mangold told them batman was in safe hands with Matt Reeves.
https://lrmonline.com/news/logan-dir...h-matt-reeves/
Logan Director Says The Batman Is In Good Hands With Matt Reeves
Ironically Mangold does not feel that way about Wolverine going to MCU and he was the first to hint of the MCU fatigue in the future.
The Batman has only raised his status. Its so off to me at this point for someone to question to Matt Reeves status just because he made a movie that made MCU look bad. I just can't anymore...lol.
What Matt Reeves did with Colin Farwell as Penguin in The Batman was impressive as a director. We need that kind of bold film direction with characters in the genre again. that is what I find exciting than the standard Ant Man green screen for 95% of the movie.
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I won't still call that an XCU equal to the MCU since all those characters are X-Men characters. mutants interacting with other mutants is not really a crossover but a continuity of a universe. when you have peter parker, reed richards, mary jane watson visiting the xmen mansion and going on mission with the xmen. then we can call that some kind of MCU XCU stuff.
I will call what Fox wanted a standard film series with spin offs. Not a cinematic universe like the MCU.
What is most important is that even if there was an XCU, it won't have been like the MCU. Fox always gave the directors and writers so much freedom that most of their movies which includes the good and bad were not as overly manufactured like the MCU and were loose canons.When a fox movie is bad, it is blamed on the director as it should. when an mcu movie is bad it is based on a studio system and the disney way of doing things. Fox was more like WB or Sony.
Speaking of crossovers. Does anyone remember the Spider-Man scene in the extras of the first X-Men movie? Wolverine and Storm run into a room and they don’t realize Spider-Man is behind them until the crew starts laughing and then they turn around and Spidey says “I’m sorry. I’m in the wrong movie.”
It was pretty funny.
Interesting poll results - although this obviously isn't a representative or scientific poll
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That's literally the opposite of what people are saying...it's actually more indicative of the people saying comic book movies are in decline.
Let's put it another way: with how poorly received most of Warner's recent superhero films have been, why would they invent in more if the market were fading?
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