Marvel Announces new What If comic. What If? Dark. Spider-Gwen

[PanicPixieDreamGirl]

But it was the JMS run where she was at her most useless.

Well of course she's useless. She's a very old woman with health problems.

Peter loves her anyway because you don't value people according to their use.

[Digifiend]

It's the only way it could make sense. I mean, I don't think the other "Spider-Women" will be involved here.

They won't. Silk is probably still in the bunker and Jessica and Julia don't have their powers yet.

[Celgress]

Please, as if Marvel and DC hasn't already been copying each other for years.

Superman even had his own "Planet Hulk" story.

My main gripe isn't about copying it is the fact Dark Super Lois was about the cringiest damn thing I've ever read....

[PCN24454]

Well of course she's useless. She's a very old woman with health problems.

Peter loves her anyway because you don't value people according to their use.

Then why kill her off? Isn’t it because Peter doesn’t have a need for her?

[Frontier]

Then why kill her off? Isn’t it because Peter doesn’t have a need for her?

That's basically the main issue with writers and editorial at this point.

[Tabs]

Then why kill her off? Isn’t it because Peter doesn’t have a need for her?

Aunt May is a supporting cast member without special abilities. Increasingly, such characters can only expect death and/or a rapid switch to villain in a comic book. The sad fact that writers can't manage to write characters who are incapable of knocking someone's teeth out is a sign of dwindling storytelling talent within the medium.

[fin5]

Thats great i have been buying old issues of what if and now i here this new what if

[PCN24454]

Aunt May is a supporting cast member without special abilities. Increasingly, such characters can only expect death and/or a rapid switch to villain in a comic book. The sad fact that writers can't manage to write characters who are incapable of knocking someone's teeth out is a sign of dwindling storytelling talent within the medium.

That’s honestly nothing new. It’s something that’s existed for at least 50 years.

[Digifiend]

Aunt May is a supporting cast member without special abilities. Increasingly, such characters can only expect death and/or a rapid switch to villain in a comic book. The sad fact that writers can't manage to write characters who are incapable of knocking someone's teeth out is a sign of dwindling storytelling talent within the medium.

True. It does seem like all the civilian support characters end up either getting powers themselves, or being killed off. Lois Lane seems to be the only major exception (even Mary Jane isn't one, look at her current storyline with Black Cat).

Look at various comics -

Iron Man: Happy Hogan was killed off during Civil War, Pepper Potts is now a superhero called Rescue.
Hulk: Betty Ross became Red She-Hulk, General Ross became Red Hulk, Rick Jones was A-Bomb for a while.
Hercules: Amadeus Cho later became a Hulk, now known as Brawn.
X-Men: Moira McTaggart was for a long time a non-mutant ally, but House of X revealed she was in fact a mutant.
Daredevil: Karen Page was killed off.
Thor: Jane Foster later took on the powers of Thor herself and is now Valkyrie.
Captain America: Sharon Carter is about to take over the mantle of the golden age Destroyer. Her aunt Peggy was resurrected and took on a codename as well, Dryad.

Same at DC:

Flash: Wally West's wife Linda Park became a speedster herself recently due to pregnancy.
Superman: Clark's ex Lana Lang was Superwoman a few years ago. Conner's first girlfriend Tana Moon was killed off.
Green Lantern: Hal Jordan's love interest Carol Ferris is Star Sapphire. Kyle Rayner had a girlfriend literally fridged.

No doubt there's plenty of other examples.

[Will Evans]

True. It does seem like all the civilian support characters end up either getting powers themselves, or being killed off. Lois Lane seems to be the only major exception (even Mary Jane isn't one, look at her current storyline with Black Cat).

Look at various comics -

Iron Man: Happy Hogan was killed off during Civil War, Pepper Potts is now a superhero called Rescue.
Hulk: Betty Ross became Red She-Hulk, General Ross became Red Hulk, Rick Jones was A-Bomb for a while.
Hercules: Amadeus Cho later became a Hulk, now known as Brawn.
X-Men: Moira McTaggart was for a long time a non-mutant ally, but House of X revealed she was in fact a mutant.
Daredevil: Karen Page was killed off.
Thor: Jane Foster later took on the powers of Thor herself and is now Valkyrie.
Captain America: Sharon Carter is about to take over the mantle of the golden age Destroyer. Her aunt Peggy was resurrected and took on a codename as well, Dryad.

Same at DC:

Flash: Wally West's wife Linda Park became a speedster herself recently due to pregnancy.
Superman: Clark's ex Lana Lang was Superwoman a few years ago. Conner's first girlfriend Tana Moon was killed off.
Green Lantern: Hal Jordan's love interest Carol Ferris is Star Sapphire. Kyle Rayner had a girlfriend literally fridged.

No doubt there's plenty of other examples.

Foggy Nelson has managed to avoid that for Daredevil, right?

And even before I wouldn’t count agent Sharon Carter since she’s not a civilian.

[Digifiend]

Yes, but he's had a couple of close calls. He once faked his death, and he's also a cancer survivor.
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Frank...on_(Earth-616)

[Peter D. Parker]

Radioactive fluids? But instead of killing her, he grants her powers

[Peter D. Parker]

Aunt May is a supporting cast member without special abilities. Increasingly, such characters can only expect death and/or a rapid switch to villain in a comic book. The sad fact that writers can't manage to write characters who are incapable of knocking someone's teeth out is a sign of dwindling storytelling talent within the medium.

There was a story where Aunt May becomes Herald of Galactus, if I remember correctly.

[PCN24454]

There was a story where Aunt May becomes Herald of Galactus, if I remember correctly.

Does this count when it’s not even canon?

[Will Evans]

True. It does seem like all the civilian support characters end up either getting powers themselves, or being killed off. Lois Lane seems to be the only major exception (even Mary Jane isn't one, look at her current storyline with Black Cat).

Look at various comics -

Iron Man: Happy Hogan was killed off during Civil War, Pepper Potts is now a superhero called Rescue.
Hulk: Betty Ross became Red She-Hulk, General Ross became Red Hulk, Rick Jones was A-Bomb for a while.
Hercules: Amadeus Cho later became a Hulk, now known as Brawn.
X-Men: Moira McTaggart was for a long time a non-mutant ally, but House of X revealed she was in fact a mutant.
Daredevil: Karen Page was killed off.
Thor: Jane Foster later took on the powers of Thor herself and is now Valkyrie.
Captain America: Sharon Carter is about to take over the mantle of the golden age Destroyer. Her aunt Peggy was resurrected and took on a codename as well, Dryad.

Same at DC:

Flash: Wally West's wife Linda Park became a speedster herself recently due to pregnancy.
Superman: Clark's ex Lana Lang was Superwoman a few years ago. Conner's first girlfriend Tana Moon was killed off.
Green Lantern: Hal Jordan's love interest Carol Ferris is Star Sapphire. Kyle Rayner had a girlfriend literally fridged.

No doubt there's plenty of other examples.

Edwin Jarvis is doing fine.