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    Default Does Batman use assaulting criminals as a form of therapy?

    Superman has strong admiration and respect for batman and sees him as a brother in arms. One day, Superman pops into the batcave and handed batman, platinum kryptonite, which essentially gives humans kryptonian powers permanently. Batman looks at it and never decides to use it on himself but rather gives the Kryptonite to Gotham girl who was dying from her powers. This essentially turned her into a full powered, kryptonian and we never saw the rock again.





    Now, batman was given superman's powers while under a malicious spell from banshee that ultimately caused him to go insane. But before losing his sanity, he admitted that his limitations as a man results in a lot of crime in gotham going unpunished. Sometimes he can't chase criminals back to their hide out because it's outside of Gotham and would take too much time. And yet, when he got 1 day to be like superman, he did more good than he ever has as Batman. So it makes one wonder why he would purposefully limit himself when given the opportunity to become more powerful and do more good. Some people have even said that batman would do more good as Bruce wayne if he invested his wealth into youth/social programs or created more job opportunities that people wouldn't be forced into a life of crime.

    Hell, batman literally built a killer robot that could help him clean up crime in Gotham but he chooses not to use it and has it catching cobwebs in the batcave.




    So it leads one to wonder whether batman's motive for fighting criminals is even altruistic at all. We know, that Batman has admitted in the past that Clark is a good person and deep down he is not. It suggest then that perhaps batman is aware that the reason he goes out every night beating criminals within an inch of their life is because he sees each criminal as Joe Chill (the man who killed his parents). He beats them to a bloody pulp as a form of therapy/ anger relief for not being able to save his parents. And if he were to employ a killer robot like failsafe to do his job for him, he would not be able to enjoy that. He might also be a bit of an adrenaline junky and enjoy the feel of his life being endangered which he would lose if he got superman's powers.
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    Only if the writer is really bad at writing the character.
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    Only if the writer is leaning hard into a really messed up interpretation of Batman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Only if the writer is leaning hard into a really messed up interpretation of Batman.
    Why do you think bruce intentionally limits himself and application of his money to fight crime though? He is on the losing end and things are only getting worse. Meanwhile every other superhero has things under control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harrynorine View Post
    Why do you think bruce intentionally limits himself and application of his money to fight crime though? He is on the losing end and things are only getting worse. Meanwhile every other superhero has things under control.
    I mean, not necesarilly otherwise other Superheroes wouldn't still need to do Superhero stuff .

    Ram V's current Detective Comics run is actually going to address why Bruce can't throw money at his problems.

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    He tried therapy and it didn't work
    He has a need to take control of things because the tragedy happened when he had no control or help as a child
    So he fights crime and fund the GCPD, Arkham and Justice League so what happened to him won't happen again as a form of taking back that control
    but he has enough conscience to not take everything under his control

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Only if the writer is leaning hard into a really messed up interpretation of Batman.
    The Bat-Blackrock story had Blackrock dump Batman as a host because Batman was too insane for the Blackrock to want him as a host.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Restingvoice View Post
    He tried therapy and it didn't work
    He has a need to take control of things because the tragedy happened when he had no control or help as a child
    So he fights crime and fund the GCPD, Arkham and Justice League so what happened to him won't happen again as a form of taking back that control
    but he has enough conscience to not take everything under his control

    That still does not explain why he intentionally limits himself in terms of the technology he could employ in his standard suit or powers that could be bestowed upon him. Hell, 1 touch of platinum kryptonite and batman would be able to work 1000000x faster than he normal works as a regular human.

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    Batman assaulting criminals is something of a means to an end that leads to him possibly preventing what happened to him from happening to anyone else. So you could argue him being Batman and the things he does therein is some form of therapy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harrynorine View Post
    That still does not explain why he intentionally limits himself in terms of the technology he could employ in his standard suit or powers that could be bestowed upon him. Hell, 1 touch of platinum kryptonite and batman would be able to work 1000000x faster than he normal works as a regular human.
    What did the story say on why he gave it away?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Restingvoice View Post
    What did the story say on why he gave it away?
    Well it kinda looks to me like they're going with the idea Batman is afraid of what he would do with the power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Restingvoice View Post
    What did the story say on why he gave it away?
    Gotham girl and her brother Gotham had superman's ability but it came at a cost of draining them of their life force. Gotham eventually gets brainwashed by batman's villians into helping them take over the city and dies from overusing his powers. Gotham girl also falls to a similar fate under Bane and uses her powers excessively that almost kills her. Batman gives her the stone to save her life because she was basically a robin under him and he didn't want to see her die. In the debut issue for platinum kryptonite, Batman secret files #1, Bruce just ponders about giving himself after just finishing a fight where the bones in his hands are fractured. He ultimately decides not to and turns to Alfred asking if Batman isn't enough.


    [Gotham and gotham girl]



    If you are curious, this was what her brother was capable of before his death.

    Ultra Powers: Through unknown means, Gotham purchased a set of metahuman powers for himself that was tied to his life force. The strength of his abilities fluctuated with the amount of his life energy he applied to them; the greater the sacrifice, the more powerful he became.

    Flight

    Heat Vision

    Invulnerability

    Superhuman Durability: Gotham could endure extreme physical damage, such as getting thrown into the Statue of Justice by Solomon Grundy.

    Superhuman Stamina: Gotham was capable of defeating the entire Justice League with his bare hands without ever straining himself once, even when he was running faster than the Flash.

    Superhuman Reflexes

    Superhuman Speed: Gotham's speed was so high that he was able to keep up with the Flash, eventually outrun him and then render him unconscious in one single hit.

    Superhuman Strength: Gotham was capable of tremendous feats of strength, including holding up the collapsing Vincefinkle Bridge and hurling a steel girder through the Batmobile. By shortening his life span, Gotham was even able to overpower Superman and render him unconscious with just a few individual punches during his battle with the Justice League.

    Ultra Vision
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    Okay so it sounds like it isn't about what he wants or if he uses crime fighting as a form of therapy.

    He simply gave it away because somebody else needs it more than him and that he's scared of what he can do with unlimited power, since, if we go by the common interpretation, Clark is a better person than him, kinder, more understanding, better self control, while Bruce is mentally damaged, emotional, can get carried away, and often very obsessive and controlling. I can see him being scared if he gets that power, he won't be able to stop himself to be a dictator eventually, none of the bat family will be strong enough to stop him, and he can outsmart the justice league. He already scared of becoming like Joker or just general murderer, if he kills them, so he's scared with this as well.

    Now whether he will become an actual dictator and murder or not, who knows, but that's what he's scared of, so he chooses to be a human who can be stop

    Oh yeah that's why he built the knight whatever robot, the one created to take him down if he ever goes bad, and to take down anyone trying to stop it taking him down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Restingvoice View Post
    Okay so it sounds like it isn't about what he wants or if he uses crime fighting as a form of therapy.

    He simply gave it away because somebody else needs it more than him and that he's scared of what he can do with unlimited power, since, if we go by the common interpretation, Clark is a better person than him, kinder, more understanding, better self control, while Bruce is mentally damaged, emotional, can get carried away, and often very obsessive and controlling. I can see him being scared if he gets that power, he won't be able to stop himself to be a dictator eventually, none of the bat family will be strong enough to stop him, and he can outsmart the justice league. He already scared of becoming like Joker or just general murderer, if he kills them, so he's scared with this as well.

    Now whether he will become an actual dictator and murder or not, who knows, but that's what he's scared of, so he chooses to be a human who can be stop

    Oh yeah that's why he built the knight whatever robot, the one created to take him down if he ever goes bad, and to take down anyone trying to stop it taking him down.
    I had to kill that thing in DCUO... PITA! It's like a Bat-Sentinel.

    I would say Bat-Ultron, but that's actually OMAC.

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