Disney Layoffs strikes Marvel! Disney lays off Perlmutter!

[80sbaby]

No, you're right, I don't think anyone is claiming that he's being blamed for Disney's current problems. They're laying him off to save money, and I'm sure this is the one money-saving decision he doesn't agree with, but obviously he contributes nothing of value and doesn't need the salary.

I was just talking about how he's often blamed for the MCU's problems with female leads, with cheap-looking movies, and so on, problems that are very much still there in 2022/3 without any involvement from him.

Ah, gotcha! In that case, I understand.

[cranger]

Does this mean that Feige or another high up at Disney will look at what they've been doing with the Spider-man and X-men comics and say "Hey, can we cut all this borderline unreadable, out of character stuff and get back to the core of what the characters should be about?"

I doubt anyone near Feige's level would be involved, but it is more likely that someone who has been given specific direction is put in charge if someone higher up would ever actually look at the comics to get that sense of need.

More likely things get a little tighter budget-wise as whatever division this gets folded into is not going to want any dead weight.

[Reviresco]

Good riddance!! Perlmutter, by all accounts, was terrible. He was on Trump's shadow cabinet and was interfering in the running of the Veterans Affairs amongst other things. He was a such a penny pincher, that he had Marvel counting paper clips and only had one bathroom for the entire bullpen floor. He fought against Kirby and his heirs over rights. He cancelled Fantastic Four in a fit of pique with Fox. He didn't want MCU movies with anything but white male leads. He tried to get Feige fired.


That said, Disney doesn't care about it's workers or politics. So it was probably this that led to his firing;

Last summer, Perlmutter began a push to put activist investor Nelson Peltz on the Disney board. Once rebuffed, Perlmutter tried to put himself on the board, promising to contain Disney's spiraling costs, right-size its streaming expenses and sort out the company's succession planning.

https://www.nexttv.com/news/disney-l...ike-perlmutter


In January 2023, Trian Fund Management owner Nelson Peltz, officially launched a proxy fight with Disney. Nelson Peltz did not support the reappointment of Bob Iger and the departure of Bob Chapek in December 2022. Peltz's goal at the time was looking to get a board seat at Disney. [58] Peltz ended the proxy fight on February 9, 2023.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Peltz

[Reviresco]

No, you're right, I don't think anyone is claiming that he's being blamed for Disney's current problems. They're laying him off to save money, and I'm sure this is the one money-saving decision he doesn't agree with, but obviously he contributes nothing of value and doesn't need the salary.

I was just talking about how he's often blamed for the MCU's problems with female leads, with cheap-looking movies, and so on, problems that are very much still there in 2022/3 without any involvement from him.

He's blamed for MCU's problems with female leads because he revealed them in e-mails. They were leaked with the Sony hack, IIRC. He didn't want Feige to do Captain Marvel or Black Panther. I have to disagree. We've gotten plenty more, since he's been gone, especially with the shows.

[Derek Metaltron]

He also issued a degree for the start of 2015 to stop all X-Men and Fantastic Four related characters from appearing in new media outside comics they controlled that lasted until 2018 (but was still affecting some areas as late as early 2020) because of his anger at Fox both having a big success with X-Men DOFP (the first non Studios film to seriously rival Avengers) and their refusal to abandon Fan4stick and return the rights back. Hence why games like MVC Infinite and LEGO Marvel 2 had to provide lame excuses why those characters were missing.

[Username taken]

He's blamed for MCU's problems with female leads because he revealed them in e-mails. They were leaked with the Sony hack, IIRC. He didn't want Feige to do Captain Marvel or Black Panther. I have to disagree. We've gotten plenty more, since he's been gone, especially with the shows.

Exactly this.

The stuff some of us are referring to here isn't rumor, these are reported facts. Disney literally removed and promoted Feige because of Perlmutter's nonsense.

EDIT: Those leaked emails kind of revealed a lot of stuff that people say online about these companies being "woke" as stupidly idiotic. Seriously, the stuff the Sony exces were saying didn't exactly scream progressive and that's just putting it mildly.

[Username taken]

Good riddance!! Perlmutter, by all accounts, was terrible. He was on Trump's shadow cabinet and was interfering in the running of the Veterans Affairs amongst other things. He was a such a penny pincher, that he had Marvel counting paper clips and only had one bathroom for the entire bullpen floor. He fought against Kirby and his heirs over rights. He cancelled Fantastic Four in a fit of pique with Fox. He didn't want MCU movies with anything but white male leads. He tried to get Feige fired.


That said, Disney doesn't care about it's workers or politics. So it was probably this that led to his firing;

Yeah, Disney (like most gigantic corporations) don't really care about politics.

If they did, Perlmutter wouldn't have lasted this long there. I mean, the man is an absolute recluse, but he turned up at Trump rallies.

I suspect the Victoria Alonso firing and her subsequent statements will reveal some truths about Disney.

For these large companies, it's all about the dough and always will be.

[CrimsonEchidna]

I’m not an ageist. But wtf, he was 80 years old. Why didn’t they force him to retire sooner?

A lot of those execs typically refuse to leave unless they groom a specific successor in mind that they are confident will run the company the exact same way they would. Look over at Vince McMahon who's up there in age as well and effectively forced his way out of retirement even while in the midst of an investigation of using company funds as hush money.

[Derek Metaltron]

I do also wonder if this was a response to the evidently opposite politically Victoria Alonso being removed or if it’s just conspiracy theory and Iger is trimming the fat over both sides. Probably the latter.

[Ravin' Ray]

Here is CBR's Brian Cronin's take on this:

Disney Shake-Up Casts Marvel Comics' Autonomy Into Doubt

[80sbaby]

Yeah, Disney (like most gigantic corporations) don't really care about politics.

If they did, Perlmutter wouldn't have lasted this long there. I mean, the man is an absolute recluse, but he turned up at Trump rallies.

I suspect the Victoria Alonso firing and her subsequent statements will reveal some truths about Disney.

For these large companies, it's all about the dough and always will be.

That last part is the real issue. Some people are just mad they aren't the only demographic being pandered to anymore.

[Drops Of Venus]

Holy ****. Never thought I'd live to see the day this evil was defeated. LOL

Very curious to see what happens to Marvel Entertainment now. I feel like at this point it just makes sense to absorb everything into Marvel Studios because why not? But maybe Feige wouldn't want that as he has enough on his plate already (and that has become a problem). Either way, different times ahead.

[Reviresco]

I don't think there will be much difference for the comics publishing side ... except maybe a few less titles published. Maybe some digital / publicity initiatives cut. I can't imagine them cutting the editorial staff any more. They are pretty thin as it is.

There might be some layoffs in merchandising and licensing, if they fold them into Marvel Studios, where they probably have people doing that for the MCU.

The real kicker is that all these layoffs, except Permulter and the top guys, which is clearly revenge / removing a troublesome thorn, is that Iger can reinstate dividends to shareholders. Cause working people don't need jobs, but shareholders need even more money.

[LordUltimus]

Less titles might actually mean more quality control. In any case, we probably won't see any effects for like six months.

[skyvolt2000]

That last part is the real issue. Some people are just mad they aren't the only demographic being pandered to anymore.

THIS.

Relying and pandering to one group to bring in the money no longer works anymore.

Everyone's money needs to be welcomed.