Amazing Spider-man 23 Preview

[Mercwmouth12]

Or Peter gets beat up by Ben and Johnny and then pathetically crawls to Norman for help.

Because apparently Johnny and Ben have no idea what to do without Captain America's approval .

Don't forget we also find out why Kamala wants to work for Oscorp again and wasn't Norman still a warden at this time as well?

[Kevinroc]

Because part of the premise was that he was "out with The Avengers" so, Captain America.

In story? No idea.

Mockingbird was at his birthday party and she didn't seem to think the team was on the "outs" with him.

The X-Men still invited him to the Hellfire Gala.

The whole premise was supposed to be Peter was on the outs with the superhero community, and it ended up a poor man's version of Nick Spencer's "Spider-Man is on the outs with the other superheroes" plot. (Hell, you could make the argument that this whole run is a poor man's version of the Nick Spencer run. The only real difference is he is on the outs with MJ too because Nick Spencer dared to present them as a romantic couple, and the BND writers couldn't have that.)

[Frontier]

Mockingbird was at his birthday party and she didn't seem to think the team was on the "outs" with him.

The X-Men still invited him to the Hellfire Gala.

The whole premise was supposed to be Peter was on the outs with the superhero community, and it ended up a poor man's version of Nick Spencer's "Spider-Man is on the outs with the other superheroes" plot. (Hell, you could make the argument that this whole run is a poor man's version of the Nick Spencer run. The only real difference is he is on the outs with MJ too because Nick Spencer dared to present them as a romantic couple, and the BND writers couldn't have that.)

Although in fairness even Spencer barely did anything with Peter being on the outs with the Superhero community and it wasn't really setup that well.

But your point stands.

[Kevinroc]

Although in fairness even Spencer barely did anything with Peter being on the outs with the Superhero community and it wasn't really setup that well.

But your point stands.

It didn't get much in the way of emphasis in the marketing of Spencer's run.

But in this run? It got a lot of emphasis. And then was immediately undercut when an Avenger went to Peter's birthday party and Peter later got invited to the Hellfire Gala.

[dornwolf]

Ah yes the Fantastic Four that small Avengers spin off that answers to Captain America. Like Reed Richards would be against helping right away. He’s poster boy for “easier to ask for forgiveness than permission”

Spider-man: “I need to blow a hole into another universe”
Mr.Fantastic: “Say no more, how big a hole we talking” as he’s kitted out with everything but the kitchen sink

[dornwolf]

To be fair I'm more concerned with how long the repercussions from it are going to remain for and in what capacity. After all they haven't exactly been subtle about this run's agenda and they wouldn't do all this crap if they didn't think it was going to remain as the status quo for the foreseeable future. Even if MJ(or whoever that character is even supposed to be at this point since she feels almost completely unrecognizable now) doesn't "die" and Paul and those kids disappear, they're not going to suddenly forget all about it and "what Peter did" and just bring back the previous status quo like nothing even happened. This garbage is clearly meant to have certain longevity and that more than anything is the issue for me. We've seen crappy runs that damage the characters many times before, but here they seem to think that "this time it's for real". This will stick around long after Wells leaves since it's clearly supported by people above his paygrade.

Well somebody probably should tell the rest of Marvel since in Daredevil everyone went to Spider-man feeling he’s the only one capable of taking down Matt plus the Fantastic Four run establishes that Johnny clearly is still buddies with Peter. So it’s literally only in the Spider-man books this would even apply and it just makes it look out of synch with everything

[Frontier]

9 times out of 10 every time Peter yells jump Johnny goes "how high?"

[Mister Mets]

Wow this is actually even more stupid than I thought. Peter explained to them what happened and they’re still trying to detain him. It’s not even the usual hero vs hero misunderstanding, it’s just PIS.

It seems rational after the events of Superior Spider-Man.

[Kevinroc]

It seems rational after the events of Superior Spider-Man.

Then why did they free Peter from the restraints?

[TinkerSpider]

Then why did they free Peter from the restraints?

What's even dumber is that Peter already told them he was in another dimension and MJ sent him back and look, he's even got the extradimensional transportation device. Only for Ben and Johnny to come back with: "Sorry can't help you, there was an extradimensional explosion involving Spider-Man!"

To which Peter should have replied, "No $%!& Sherlock, I JUST told you that!"

[Kevinroc]

With the way this story has gone, I wouldn't be surprised if Peter didn't do anything, everyone else was just a jerk.

[Kaitou D. Kid]

What's even dumber is that Peter already told them he was in another dimension and MJ sent him back and look, he's even got the extradimensional transportation device. Only for Ben and Johnny to come back with: "Sorry can't help you, there was an extradimensional explosion involving Spider-Man!"

To which Peter should have replied, "No $%!& Sherlock, I JUST told you that!"

Another thing this has in common with OMD: Other heroes can't help "cuz reasons." No different than when no one could save Aunt May.

[Celgress]

This is One More Day all over again. It's the same story beat! "The other heroes can't help Peter because...REASONS! It's magic, we don't have to explain it!" We are literally back at square one with this crap. Wow. Just...wow.

Hey, don't be so insulting. I could write a better story than this pile of rancid crap in my sleep....

But, yeah, it is awful.

[Celgress]

Then why did they free Peter from the restraints?

Indeed, this is illogical storytelling 101; something happens cause da plot demands it happens regardless of if it makes sense or not.

[JustLuke]

This is the only reaction I have to this book at this point.