The Marvels (2023)

[80sbaby]

He said ELEMENTAL. Not Eternals lol

[j9ac9k]

... Any update on the Sokovia Accords?

They were shown to be repealed. It was mentioned in "She-Hulk."

And that's entirely Disney's fault, and it's a mistake that may cost them. How many movies and shows have their been since Endgame? Carol only had a 10 second cameo in Shang Chi. And none of the stuff talking about the Blip mentioned her time on Earth being a big deal. Or maybe Ms. Marvel did...but it's the MCU's lowest viewed show.

Why is there all this discussion about whether or not Captain Marvel's exploits were enough for her to have fans? Is that even relevant to the story? The first two minutes of Ms Marvel explain pretty well why Kamala likes her. It was largely because of Endgame, which is more than enough to make someone a fan of a super hero. (this is "the real world" after all, not a comic book - when a person can do what she does, and did it during a battle to save existence, you're gonna have fans) Kamala's video of Endgame was "part 10" of her series and there were flashes of fighter planes, so one can guess Carol's past is also public knowledge to some degree. Again, there's stuff there too to make someone a fan of Carol. Captain Marvel also left earth after Endgame to deal with off-world chaos so it doesn't appear she did much afterwards to gain more popularity, but she really shouldn't have to.

[Sutekh]

I was expecting a Blip Captain Marvel story, too, but didn't some of the story ideas get changed due to the Pandemic?

IIRC, the last Avengers movie had a little look between Carol and Rhodey that implied that something had happened between them, which becomes more interesting in the light of him possibly being a Skrull at that point...

And yeah, a Blip-era story showing what the world was like when Natasha was apparently coordinating global Avengers efforts with the likes of Carol, Rhodey, Okoya, etc. could be interesting. Definitely not your usual 'Avengers' lineup! (Plus I really wanted to see what places like Wakanda were like during the five years *their King was dead*, and yet, interestingly, no one stepped up or challenged Mom for the crown, for five years, with no idea that he'd be Snapped back!)

[Frontier]

They were shown to be repealed. It was mentioned in "She-Hulk."

Why again is there all this discussion about whether or not Captain Marvel's exploits were enough for her to have fans? Is that even relevant to the story? The first two minutes of Ms Marvel explain pretty well why Kamala likes her. It was largely because of Endgame, which is more than enough to make someone a fan of a super hero. (this is "the real world" after all, not a comic book - when a person can do what she does, and did it during a battle to save existence, you're gonna have fans) Kamala's video of Endgame was "part 10" of her series and there were flashes of fighter planes, so one can guess Carol's past is also public knowledge to some degree. Again, there's stuff there too to make someone a fan of Carol. Captain Marvel also left earth after Endgame to deal with off-world chaos so it doesn't appear she did much afterwards to gain more popularity, but she really shouldn't have to.

It'll be interesting to see how Kamala takes to learning about Carol as a person because it seems like she mostly gravitated to Carol "the myth" as a way of boosting her confidence and not so much who she was personally, especially when Monica is probably going to be icy towards her because of their history.

[StickMin]

And that's entirely Disney's fault, and it's a mistake that may cost them. How many movies and shows have their been since Endgame? Carol only had a 10 second cameo in Shang Chi. And none of the stuff talking about the Blip mentioned her time on Earth being a big deal. Or maybe Ms. Marvel did...but it's the MCU's lowest viewed show.



?! Granted it's a bit tricky when talking about pandemic releases, but Eternals was a flop, and we know this because of what's happened after. No Disney bragging about its streaming numbers, no movement on a sequel, Chloe Zhao saying shes not coming back, Black Knight removed from the Blade movie, no followup on the movie's characters or plot threads anywhere else.

If the movie did well, that's not what would have happened by now.

It's amazing how so many things you said are flat out wrong, like you really wanted to talk about Eternals but you didn't care to do any sort of research at all.

[Gaastra]

Marvels tv spot has someone using thors hammers Bifrost to aid cm. "I called a friend". Is it Valkyrie, sif, beta ray bill or thor?

Marvel is teasing it like it's thor in the ads. Bet it will be someone else but who knows. Maybe it's sharon the second ms marvel that marvel forgot about!

[Kirby101]

Marvels tv spot has someone using thors hammers Bifrost to aid cm. "I called a friend". Is it Valkyrie, sif, beta ray bill or thor?

Marvel is teasing it like it's thor in the ads. Bet it will be someone else but who knows. Maybe it's sharon the second ms marvel that marvel forgot about!

Bifrost is the Rainbow Bridge, Thor's two hammers are Mjolner and Stormbreaker. And I don't see a hammer in that trailer. And if he is calling some random light effect the Rainbow Bridge, he is imagining things. This guy babbles on for 17 minutes of pure bullshit.

[Gaastra]

Disney is promoting this "called a friend" in the tv spots whoever it is but cuts before showing them. What would be funny is if it would end up being just nick fury beaming up. Disney would really be trolling hard.

[KabutoRyder]

Disney is promoting this "called a friend" in the tv spots whoever it is but cuts before showing them. What would be funny is if it would end up being just nick fury beaming up. Disney would really be trolling hard.

Well we already know they love to bait and switch with their trailers and CGI stuff out as well as in to mislead people....

[krazijoe]

Well we already know they love to bait and switch with their trailers and CGI stuff out as well as in to mislead people....

It's Chewie...

[j9ac9k]

It's America Chavez bringing Maria Rambeau Capt. Marvel from the Multiverse. (because being killed by a statue was stupid)

[DarthBubba]

Could it be G'iah?

[choptop]

It's America Chavez bringing Maria Rambeau Capt. Marvel from the Multiverse. (because being killed by a statue was stupid)

She was powerless at the time also that CM was weaker then the MCU one so not that stupid.

[Jared]

He said ELEMENTAL. Not Eternals lol

Ah, well that one eventually legged it out to break-even/some profit. Which is way better than anyone woudl have hoped after its disastrous debut. But superhero movies tend to be much more front loaded. Family films can often hang around in theaters a while, there's always people can take the kids to them. If The Marvels were to open as poorly as Elemental, it would be absolute miracle for it to then pull off a similar comeback.

It's amazing how so many things you said are flat out wrong, like you really wanted to talk about Eternals but you didn't care to do any sort of research at all.

No, I genuinely misread Elemental as Eternals, that's all. But if you think I was off about Etenrals itself, you don't know what you're talking about and I won't waste time on you.

Could it be G'iah?

I doubt it would be someone she's never met onscreen. And I really doubt they'd *promote* a Secret Invasion tie-in at this point. It's their secine or third lowest watche'd show, critics and fans alike were savaging it by the finale. There's a decent chance that show ends up like The Inhumans where no one ever speaks of it. It woudl also be kidna weird to bring Giah in a the cavalry when she's more powerful than the Marvels (or the Avengers) put together. Guest appearances can be fun, but not when it's an unpopular character who makes your story's main characters look useless by comparison.

I would make it War Machine. Carol and Rhodey were both in the Air Force. They both avoided the Snap and should know each other from the 5 year darkness. And it's an excuse to show off the latest suit/set the stage for Armor Wars.

[BeastieRunner]

Ah, well that one eventually legged it out break-even some profit. Which is way better than anyone woudl have hoped after its disastrous debut. But superhero movies tend to be much more front loaded. Family films can often hang around in theaters a while, there's always people can take the kids to them. If The Marvels were to open as poorly as Elemental, it would be absolute miracle for it to then pull off a similar comeback.

Elemental Has Ended Its Domestic Run With $154,424,637, Making it the 1st Non-"Toy Story" Pixar Film to Reach a 5x Multiplier

https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/El...3)#tab=summary