“…it's an honor to come back and help close out this chapter of X-Men history.”

[Master of Sound]

And this should be merged with the Alpha Flight thread.

[Exodus]

If it is the end of the Krakoa status quo, I hope the goal is more interesting than a mutant schism where Jean and Scott start a new school for gifted youngsters in New York City, while the more radical mutants take over Krakoa waiting for Magneto to return and take his seat...

[Kingdom X]

If it is the end of the Krakoa status quo, I hope the goal is more interesting than a mutant schism where Jean and Scott start a new school for gifted youngsters in New York City, while the more radical mutants take over Krakoa waiting for Magneto to return and take his seat...

More like waiting to get turned into canon fodder. If all the prominent heroic X-Men abandon Krakoa as a concept, but it remains a sovereign nation it's really only a matter of time before it becomes the site of another massacre or extinction event. The writers already felt comfortable doing it to Arakko to "build stakes".

[Zero Hunter]

Where would you move everyone on there?

Scatter them all over. I am so sick and tired of every mutant being herded into one ghetto or another. Ever since No More Mutants it ha been this way and it is fricken tired. It has never made sense that everyone gets along just because they are mutants and herding them all together when in reality a lot of them would kill the others given the chance has always been stupid.

[Thundershot]

I really really wish they had stuck to Hickman’s plan. It’s getting to be a mess now.. Unfortunately, I’m afraid they’d go back to the way it was before. I dropped X-men books for a good 10-15 years because it stopped keeping my interest. Sure, I’d peek in now and then like when Bendis came on but I ended up abandoning them. It’ll never happen, but I miss the days when there was a handful of X-men books and each book had a different cast and premise. These days, EVERYONE is an X-Man and it’s not special anymore. Remember when Cannonball “graduated” to the X-men? Of course that was flubbed because he became a dork again, but it was still something special..

[Mutant_Lover]

Scatter them all over. I am so sick and tired of every mutant being herded into one ghetto or another. Ever since No More Mutants it ha been this way and it is fricken tired. It has never made sense that everyone gets along just because they are mutants and herding them all together when in reality a lot of them would kill the others given the chance has always been stupid.

I’m a huge Krakoa Stan, but I also kind of agree with this. Having mutants in other team books often makes me want to read those teams. I was so excited for Dust joining champions… but that fizzled out. Captain Marvel right now is prime example, and I know many who wouldn’t have read that book are now reading it for the X-team. So I want best of both worlds, krakoa love but mutants engaging in more (and not just Uncanny Avengers)

[Kitty&Piotr<3]

If it is the end of the Krakoa status quo, I hope the goal is more interesting than a mutant schism where Jean and Scott start a new school for gifted youngsters in New York City, while the more radical mutants take over Krakoa waiting for Magneto to return and take his seat...

Sounds like you got spoilers, tbh.

[Grunty]

More like waiting to get turned into canon fodder. If all the prominent heroic X-Men abandon Krakoa as a concept, but it remains a sovereign nation it's really only a matter of time before it becomes the site of another massacre or extinction event. The writers already felt comfortable doing it to Arakko to "build stakes".

The problem with Arrako is that it was basicly hyped up in Ten of Swords as this ancient nation of "super duper mutants" who could defeat everyone on Earth in an afternoon if they felt like it, but then instead of remaining in a a distant or secret far away place barely connected to the "regular world", which would excuse it's lack of involvement or presence, they were first openly placed on Earth and then got the entire planet Mars dedicated to them. Which is connected to Earth via instant teleportation wormhole gates the X-men can put everywhere.

Together with being connected and allied with Krakoa, it means if anything major is put against the X-men and their nation, the arraki need to be wiped off the board so they can't simply beat their enemy in the above mentioned afternoon.

So they are not only in danger of being wiped out to build up stakes, but also because they are a constant potential narrative problem for the standard stories of these comics.

As for Krakoa being in danger of getting wiped out without the X-men placed on and running it. I'm not sure it's all that safe with the X-men on it either.

Take all the jokes about the Mansion getting destroyed regulary (how often did that actualy happen before the 00's?) and apply it to a whole nation.

In my opinion the only way ANY mutant nation could ever survive is if there is a strong paradigm shift among the X-editorial and writing room that such a nation needs to be a fictional fixture on Earth ala. Atlantis and Wakanda, as opposed to the trend Morrison started where it's a-ok for writers to casualy wipe out millions of mutants and their nations for an (longterm) unrewarding storyline.

But even then i stay to the opinion that the X-men and co. need to stay away from it, since it ties them down even more than the big school allready did (another concept that should perhaps be reconsidered).

[rcaguy]

I can understand the school part (even though I don't agree) but I can't wrap my head around the idea that there are X-men fans that don't want them to be heroes.

What's so appealing about throw-away cannon-fodder? You've got the Avengers and FF for that role. Do something different with them.

[Cyclone_Ablaze]

Most people seem to have overlooked this statement by Ed Brisson regarding his upcoming work on Alpha Flight.


Source: https://www.marvel.com/articles/comi...nkId=209844293

Is the Krakoan Era really coming to a close, or did Brisson misspeak?

Oh, yeah? Good for him.

[Mutant X]

With Ed Brisson, Marc Guggenheim e Tini Howard it's literally the Fall of X.

[rcaguy]

Take all the jokes about the Mansion getting destroyed regulary (how often did that actualy happen before the 00's?) and apply it to a whole nation.

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Pretty much every other issue during the 80's. How and why do you think the Mansion got the Shi'ar tech to begin with?

1st meeting of the X-men/New Mutants was a perfect example.......

[Alan2099]

What's so appealing about throw-away cannon-fodder? You've got the Avengers and FF for that role. Do something different with them.

I have no clue what point you're trying to make.

[Sutekh]

Scatter them all over. I am so sick and tired of every mutant being herded into one ghetto or another. Ever since No More Mutants it ha been this way and it is fricken tired. It has never made sense that everyone gets along just because they are mutants and herding them all together when in reality a lot of them would kill the others given the chance has always been stupid.

They do have a spotty track record huddling up in private enclaves like the Morlock tunnels, Genosha, Avalon, Utopia and Krakoa. (It also seems to make it easier to badmouth them, when nobody really sees them day to day, and can't just get used to them being around, just hears about them all gathering in some other country, which automatically feels like an impending threat to nations.)

I know that there's no real 'solution' to them just living wherever the hell they want, since misery porn is the X-theme of the last few decades, and they are gonna get persecuted whether or not they live among the rest of the residents of Earth, move to Lila's Dyson sphere, colonize a planet in the Shiar Empire or move into another dimension like Pathway's Liveworld. I'd like for them to just live in the world and eff those who don't want them to, but this is the X-franchise, and they will be hunted and killed and persecuted wherever they go or whatever they do, so it'll get criticized (just as I'm perfectly willing to toss stones at Avalon, Genosha, etc. when it wasn't their fault the X-office likes to beat their children).

It's also harder for them to assimilate with non-mutant friends and family when they've all been killed off for cheap drama over the years. Kitty's dad, Colossus' family, Jean's family, etc. And, unlike for the main characters, there's no endless resurrections for the non-mutants allies like Sharon Friedlander.

[Rift]

I have no clue what point you're trying to make.

I think they are saying that they should kill the Avengers and Fantastic Four. And you know what, I'm alright with that.