Wrestling WWE

[Royal]

Oh, I get the part timer criticism. I get the, "not around enough," criticism.

I also get that Wrestling is about 60% Money and 40% Art. IT's not about fairness.

Brock is legit, and he makes the belt look legit. It would be dumb and a big missed opportunity not to put that belt on Lesnar after Summerslam. The Raw Version of it at least. Plus Brock appeared almost twice as much last years as opposed to the years of his first contract. HE doesn't need to be there every week or defend that belt on every show. The IWGP isn't defended every show.

Who the **** is Dean Ambrose when Brock Lesnar is right there? and I love Ambrose(**** wrestler though).

New Japan has...

1.) Legit wrestlers
2.) Other titles to defend.

WWE retired their only legit talent and are squandering the others in NXT.

And your belts are crap. Doubly so if given to Lesnar and Reigns.

[TheInvisibleMan]

New Japan has...

1.) Legit wrestlers
2.) Other titles to defend.

WWE retired their only legit talent and are squandering the others in NXT.

And your belts are crap. Doubly so if given to Lesnar and Reigns.

so what do you consider a "legit" talent?

I know others have asked you this question and youve not answered yet

[The Nuke]

New Japan has...

1.) Legit wrestlers
2.) Other titles to defend.

WWE retired their only legit talent and are squandering the others in NXT.

And your belts are crap. Doubly so if given to Lesnar and Reigns.

Don't disagree with any of that save for the part about the belt not meaning something on Lesnar.

A legit champ, makes a legit belt.

[Royal]

so what do you consider a "legit" talent?

I know others have asked you this question and youve not answered yet

Actual catchers or martial artists.

[Royal]

Don't disagree with any of that save for the part about the belt not meaning something on Lesnar.

A legit champ, makes a legit belt.

So what you're implying is Inokism = legitimacy

[SUPERECWFAN1]

Well this talk of titles brings me to an earlier post where I discussed the Ronnie Garvin shoot. Watching a Rock n Roll Express one , they detailed some things.


- Ricky & Robert both discuss that Dusty Rhodes really wasn't a good booker. As Gibson joked , he could book Dusty great but well the rest. They discuss that Rhodes told them they were no longer hot and wouldn't be getting a push. As Morton says , the team was at its hottest point then. We had sold out shows. So Rhodes fires them both and soon enough they learn Crockett's losing so many millions of dollars and that Dusty made him get a private jet. Which cost big money.

Both men were hired back by the time Dusty was fired. But the affects were done made. No heels were hot then as Morton brings up. They had no hot heels to program them against and it was all flat in the territory. So the 2nd run wasn't as good.




- They discuss the classic Ric Flair/Morton program where Flair did the whole training bra deal as the video shows. Morton claims he never knew Flair was gonna bring the training bra out. The entire scene above was not scripted. They did it all on the fly. Morton jokes Flair under his breath tells him to take his $500 sunglasses and stomp em. Then they did the brawl.

Gibson was asked if he was worried that this program was gonna make them push Ricky Morton as a singles wrestler. But Gibson didn't have no fear of that happening because he claims they were too damn hot as a tag team to be split. Morton brings up that Dusty came to him and wanted him to go singles and let Gibson go. But as he said , Dusty was doing it politically to kill the team as usual with ideas like cutting their hair really short etc etc . Before they were fired.

Then Morton reveals a shocker , "You don't think Ronnie Garvin winning that title that same year came outta left field for a reason , right ?" Revealing that had he split the team , Dusty Rhodes was gonna make him NWA World Champion heading into Starrcade.



- At the end he admits he'd a couple years later turn on Robert , but even then he only did it because he needed to work while Robert was getting a knee surgery done. That he was off with it and he needed to make a living. So he did the heel turn then.

[HUTHAIFA]

You dont need to put THE MAIN BELT on Lesnar but you could put the IC or Us belt on him and just have be undefeated for a year or so. For him, it would just be a prop to call him champ but for whoever eventually wins it, then it becomes a symbol of beating the unconquerable.

[Deadxman]

You dont need to put THE MAIN BELT on Lesnar but you could put the IC or Us belt on him and just have be undefeated for a year or so. For him, it would just be a prop to call him champ but for whoever eventually wins it, then it becomes a symbol of beating the unconquerable.

Wouldn't work. Brock has always been looked at as a MAIN eventer that's why he was given a mega push at the beginning. This is the man that Killed Hulkamina in the ring and literally bathed in it's Blood. He would make any second tier Title more Legit then The Main belt and the crowds would see that it's champ is nothing but Vince's chosen one. (Oh, hi, Roman)


All they need is to find someone that can legit beat up Brock Lesner but and out talk Paul hymen.


Good luck with that

[Royal]

All they need is to find someone that can legit beat up Brock Lesner but and out talk Paul hymen.


Good luck with that

They've forgotten Alberto and they won't hire Barnett.

[Charlie Rock]

You dont need to put THE MAIN BELT on Lesnar but you could put the IC or Us belt on him and just have be undefeated for a year or so. For him, it would just be a prop to call him champ but for whoever eventually wins it, then it becomes a symbol of beating the unconquerable.

I don't think so. That would put whatever belt Lesner has over the main belt.

[Charlie Rock]

Well this talk of titles brings me to an earlier post where I discussed the Ronnie Garvin shoot. Watching a Rock n Roll Express one , they detailed some things.


- Ricky & Robert both discuss that Dusty Rhodes really wasn't a good booker. As Gibson joked , he could book Dusty great but well the rest. They discuss that Rhodes told them they were no longer hot and wouldn't be getting a push. As Morton says , the team was at its hottest point then. We had sold out shows. So Rhodes fires them both and soon enough they learn Crockett's losing so many millions of dollars and that Dusty made him get a private jet. Which cost big money.

Both men were hired back by the time Dusty was fired. But the affects were done made. No heels were hot then as Morton brings up. They had no hot heels to program them against and it was all flat in the territory. So the 2nd run wasn't as good.




- They discuss the classic Ric Flair/Morton program where Flair did the whole training bra deal as the video shows. Morton claims he never knew Flair was gonna bring the training bra out. The entire scene above was not scripted. They did it all on the fly. Morton jokes Flair under his breath tells him to take his $500 sunglasses and stomp em. Then they did the brawl.

Gibson was asked if he was worried that this program was gonna make them push Ricky Morton as a singles wrestler. But Gibson didn't have no fear of that happening because he claims they were too damn hot as a tag team to be split. Morton brings up that Dusty came to him and wanted him to go singles and let Gibson go. But as he said , Dusty was doing it politically to kill the team as usual with ideas like cutting their hair really short etc etc . Before they were fired.

Then Morton reveals a shocker , "You don't think Ronnie Garvin winning that title that same year came outta left field for a reason , right ?" Revealing that had he split the team , Dusty Rhodes was gonna make him NWA World Champion heading into Starrcade.



- At the end he admits he'd a couple years later turn on Robert , but even then he only did it because he needed to work while Robert was getting a knee surgery done. That he was off with it and he needed to make a living. So he did the heel turn then.

Vince_Surprised.jpg whoa ...

[alex]

Actual catchers or martial artists.

New Japan has also seen ticket sales fall, Tanahashi is getting older and broken down, Kenny Omega is not a star on the level of AJ and the fact that they made no new stars when they were flying high is going to hurt them the next few years.
Naito has sort of recovered with the heel turn, people actually give somewhat of a crap now so he's better off then the last time they tried to put him on top. But they better go with Shibata or we can look forward to more mix ups of okada, naito and tanahashi, matches we have seen a lot.

[alex]

They've forgotten Alberto and they won't hire Barnett.

Del Rio is a midcarder and it's too late to bring up he once did legit fighting.

IMO, Joe is the perfect opponent for Lesnar, but having joe go over lesnar is a waste because he's too old.
Roman going over Lesnar won't work because nothing they do with Roman works because he isn't the face of the company and never will be no matter how much the company wants it.
Ambrose already got destroyed by Lesnar so i don't see any benefit in that.
I don't see anyone but Joe that they could have fight lesnar and have it mean anything, and even Joe would take months of build to have that match mean anything.

Orton vs Lesnar given the lesnar win last night is definetly the wrong match though. Randy Orton will never be a bigger star than he currently is, beating lesnar won't change that.

[Deadxman]

joe vs Brock....

How many Somians dose it take to fill Brock?

[master of read]

joe vs Brock....

How many Somians dose it take to fill Brock?

all of them.