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    Quote Originally Posted by I'm a Fish View Post
    What’s this from?
    Trinity Special

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felipe Silveira View Post
    It is currently a registered trademark of Tom King.
    So I guess it'll turn out that they were just sending secret messages to each other, LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy_McNichts View Post

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    I think we officially have the worst moment in Tom King's run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I think we officially have the worst moment in Tom King's run.
    If it was not published in the main series it is not canon :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastianne View Post
    If it was not published in the main series it is not canon :P
    Words to live by.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy_McNichts View Post

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    Gross. Diana punching Hippolyta is ridiculously OOC. She's like a generic warrior woman. And why does Superman and/or Batman have to be mentioned in every story? Can't WW stand on her own? Honestly, I just don't think King can write Diana well, and it's going to be a major problem with this run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    The punching was a bit much.
    Wow! I have a feeling this will be a meme for King's run. Regardless of what he does later in his run, people are going to call this out -- because it's bad.

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    That is Diana? "I don't have Clark's power"? "I can't outrun them"? Well, thanks DC/Tom King for reminding us again that Diana is always second best.

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    Rucka would never... lol

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    Wasn't a fan of the punching (though at least for Diana, Trinity hasn't been established enough for that to be ooc or not) but other than that I got what the story was going for. Though probably King's weakest story to date.

    Also didn't really feel this merited an entire special issue filled with reprints of the backups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius View Post
    Wasn't a fan of the punching (though at least for Diana, Trinity hasn't been established enough for that to be ooc or not) but other than that I got what the story was going for. Though probably King's weakest story to date.

    Also didn't really feel this merited an entire special issue filled with reprints of the backups.
    Especially since said backups are still available on the shelves. Def way too soon.

    But it would seem it’s not a great issue from many vantage points…
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koriand'r View Post
    Rucka would never... lol
    He got WW failed to react to a speeding bullet twice in his second run. Most DC writers have only been good at nerfing WW's powers for the last 10 years.

    tom king is alkready a flop in my eyes. A WW that can't even outrun a bullet. Sigh.

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    Think this might've killed the run for me. The next issue's preordered but I'm not paying for it after that. Diana punching Hippolyta put the whole thing in perspective and made me realize there's just something rotten at the core. My truest apologies to Daniel Sampere, who's only done great work.

    Mr. Miracle worked because King can relate to a sad little man and Supergirl worked because (a) it's a True Grit rip-off and (b) the gravity is all around the Great Stoic Woman. But he seems mystified by the idea of loving, equal relationships women that aren't carried by some kind of violence or power struggle, and he doesn't understand that a woman can show strength, emotion, and solidarity in equal turn - she doesn't have to be cold, violent, or a lone wolf. The stuff with the little boy in issue 4 was so well done that it threw me off, but it's the only time she was anything other than a bully or a Stoic Fight Machine in 5 issues and apparently the story was Sampere's idea.

    And the compulsive need to bring up irrelevant men at every turn (especially when it's for the sake of unfavorable comparison, as it is here) is just pathetic. It's like he knows he hyped up this book as a big deal but isn't doing anything to actually make it stand on its own merit so he has to constantly bring up the other Big Brands. God knows he wasn't talking about Wonder Woman 5 times every issue in his Batman and Superman stories.

    Also, is anyone else bothered by the fact that he set everything up around a shallow immigrant/ICE allegory in the first issue (which he immediately dropped) only to completely undermine it by writing Amazons who are just as hyper-violent and hateful as the supposed reactionaries in the story claim? Just threw in some dead lesbians to set the stakes and then forgot what he was even doing.

    Quote Originally Posted by WonderLight789 View Post
    He got WW failed to react to a speeding bullet twice in his second run. Most DC writers have only been good at nerfing WW's powers for the last 10 years.
    Ahem, Nicola Scott didn't draw the GOATed bullets and bracelets scene to be overlooked like this!





    So yeah, that's a huge, glaring nerf, and it's far from the scene's biggest problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bardkeep View Post
    Think this might've killed the run for me. The next issue's preordered but I'm not paying for it after that. Diana punching Hippolyta put the whole thing in perspective and made me realize there's just something rotten at the core. My truest apologies to Daniel Sampere, who's only done great work.

    Mr. Miracle worked because King can relate to a sad little man and Supergirl worked because (a) it's a True Grit rip-off and (b) the gravity is all around the Great Stoic Woman. But he seems mystified by the idea of loving, equal relationships women that aren't carried by some kind of violence or power struggle, and he doesn't understand that a woman can show strength, emotion, and solidarity in equal turn - she doesn't have to be cold, violent, or a lone wolf. The stuff with the little boy in issue 4 was so well done that it threw me off, but it's the only time she was anything other than a bully or a Stoic Fight Machine in 5 issues and apparently the story was Sampere's idea.

    And the compulsive need to bring up irrelevant men at every turn (especially when it's for the sake of unfavorable comparison, as it is here) is just pathetic. It's like he knows he hyped up this book as a big deal but isn't doing anything to actually make it stand on its own merit so he has to constantly bring up the other Big Brands. God knows he wasn't talking about Wonder Woman 5 times every issue in his Batman and Superman stories.

    Also, is anyone else bothered by the fact that he set everything up around a shallow immigrant/ICE allegory in the first issue (which he immediately dropped) only to completely undermine it by writing Amazons who are just as hyper-violent and hateful as the supposed reactionaries in the story claim? Just threw in some dead lesbians to set the stakes and then forgot what he was even doing.



    Ahem, Nicola Scott didn't draw the GOATed bullets and bracelets scene to be overlooked like this!





    So yeah, that's a huge, glaring nerf, and it's far from the scene's biggest problem.
    Later in that same run she got shot twice. Failing to block, dodge and react in time. Later we got the priest example in jl run. The Dark metal where she got tagged by an 8th metal bullet, green arrow book appearance where she says she is not faster than a speeding bullet but superman is. Which is again consistent with this trinity issue where she says the same thing basically. So for the past 7 years. DC writers have been consistent at keeping WW's speed and other powers at the average super human level. There is no way to deny it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WonderLight789 View Post
    Later in that same run she got shot twice. Failing to block, dodge and react in time. Later we got the priest example in jl run. The Dark metal where she got tagged by an 8th metal bullet, green arrow book appearance where she says she is not faster than a speeding bullet but superman is. Which is again consistent with this trinity issue where she says the same thing basically. So for the past 7 years. DC writers have been consistent at keeping WW's speed and other powers at the average super human level. There is no way to deny it.
    But you said Rucka, nothing about the others. And wasn't she shot by Commander Poison because she didn't know she was there?

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