Who agrees? Carol back as Ms. Marvel and Kamala with new original title

[KC]

No. Carol is Captain Marvel now and she deserves to use the name as much as any other Captain Marvel. And I like that Kamala took the name Ms. Marvel because she is a fan of Carol.

[OBrianTallent]

Yeah, Ultra Girl would fit the bill, Carol offered her one of her old costumes before (the original one), but Norman Osborn confiscated it for Karla Sofen to wear as the Ms. Marvel of the Dark Avengers. Just have Suzy show up with longer hair (she always had a bob, but she's not appeared in over a decade, so a change of hairstyle wouldn't be a surprise and it's needed for her to look the part), Carol reunites with her and offers her one of her old costumes again, and there you go, an active character who looks like the 80s and 2000s Ms. Marvel.

I was thinking the same thing...give Susie the black costume. She can modify it...add leggings so it's not a swimsuit any more.
As for names...Carol is Captain Marvel. She's earned it and deserves it. Kamala (who is obviously not going to stay dead) can keep Ms. Marvel. I would suggest Marvel Girl for Susie, but Marvel keeps yanking that back and saddling Jean Grey with it (same with Marvel Woman.) Let Susie stay Ultra Girl in name, but wearing Carol's old suit (modified of course) and give Carol her own legacy line. If they want to change Susie's name, she can take up Binary (as a signifier to her dual heritage as well as abilities.)

[shooshoomanjoe]

That's exactly what happened LOL.

Public: We like Wonder Woman!

Marvel: But we have Wonder Woman at home.

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How'd they get away with giving her a camel toe on the cover?

[Anthony W]

Some of A and B) Old Warbird / Ms. Marvel outfit, but with the thighs covered (tights/pants instead of bikini bottom and pirate boots), but name Captain Marvel, Binary or Warbird, no going back to 'Ms. Marvel.'

IMO, the old costume, minus the 'thighs out' bit, was more distinctive than her current one.

I was thinking the same thing...give Susie the black costume. She can modify it...add leggings so it's not a swimsuit any more

Bwahahaha!

The Warbird Costume is the best costume. No IMHO needed. It does not need alterations.
You're reading a comic book folks. It's quaint compared to what you see in manga. Also it still shows less skin than Wonder Woman who the last time I checked was the feminist icon that Marvel so desperately wants Captain Marvel to be.

So either she is back in black all the way with no alterations or just sports the milquetoast costume that no one really likes.

[mugiwara]

So either she is back in black all the way with no alterations or just sports the milquetoast costume that no one really likes.

So the important part for you is the sexy costume more than the name, right?

No judging, I just trying to figure is the battlefield is the legacy monikers or the amount of skin showing.

[Anthony W]

So the important part for you is the sexy costume more than the name, right?

No judging, I just trying to figure is the battlefield is the legacy monikers or the amount of skin showing.

No.

I would have preferred that she kept the black costume and went by Warbird or Ms Marvel and Marvel not give up on the Genis-Vell character for as long as they did. I can see why they did. Genis was coming off of Avengers Forever and was full of promise but Peter David just wanted to write Rick Jones and merely tolerated Genis and killed his momentum.

Believe it or not I thought Carol Danvers was one of the best parts of Busiek's Avengers run. Some real character building stuff happened in that run. Oh and another thing, how strange is it that Busiek's Avengers run has become underrated? Busiek was writing it and Perez was drawing it and it was only second to the X-Men franchise back when the X-Men franchise still meant something IMHO

So if she must be Captain Marvel she can at least do it with the best costume.

[marhawkman]

Bwahahaha!

The Warbird Costume is the best costume. No IMHO needed. It does not need alterations.
You're reading a comic book folks. It's quaint compared to what you see in manga. Also it still shows less skin than Wonder Woman who the last time I checked was the feminist icon that Marvel so desperately wants Captain Marvel to be.

So either she is back in black all the way with no alterations or just sports the milquetoast costume that no one really likes.

honestly... if it was Suzy Sherman/Tsu-zana wearing it it'd make sense to change it a bit. Her orange Ultra-girl costume is basically spandex pants and a sleeveless midriff covering top. so making that black with a lightning bolt logo wouldn't be a stretch.
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[marvelprince]

I guarantee a faithful adaption of Carol Danvers as Ms. Marvel would've been far more successful in the MCU. If current version of her was so successful, why was her sequel turned into a group venture.

No. Just no.

[KurtW95]

No. Just no.

Yes 100%. Why don't you think so?

[Anthony W]

Yes 100%. Why don't you think so?

People love cardboard characters?

[80sbaby]

I really don't see the point in this change.

[king of hybrids]

This is some mighty fine culture war BS we’ve got in this thread

[Force de Phenix]

I guarantee a faithful adaption of Carol Danvers as Ms. Marvel would've been far more successful in the MCU. If current version of her was so successful, why was her sequel turned into a group venture.

Captain America 2 and 3 were "group ventures." And so was Quantumania and GoTG3. Not everyone is Batman and Spider-Man. Aside from Spider-Man, everyone in the MU interacts with other characters. And Spider-Man's movies are solo with cameos while Sony and Disney had the deal.

[KurtW95]

I really don't see the point in this change.

And I didn't see the point in the change eleven years ago.

This is some mighty fine culture war BS we’ve got in this thread

No.

[Shadowedeyes]

No one knows how well a completely different movie using different story elements would have done, so I don't buy anyone saying that a Ms. Marvel (Carol Danvers) movie with more "comic accurate" elements would have done better, because there is way to much conjecture to accurately predict that.