Revisiting John Wick vs. Link

[Ultra_Sonic]

https://community.cbr.com/showthread...h-of-the-Wild)

Ganondorf awakens and hires John Wick to take out both Link and the Princess. He then supernaturally grants John Wick all of his arsenal and infinite ammo to aid him in his task. Ganon also orders the entire Yiga Clan to serve as backup for Mr. Wick.

Link will get all of his in-game abilities here.

[grampagen]

I have not played this game nor seen this film series, but uh, well...

[Radioactive Zombie]

https://community.cbr.com/showthread...h-of-the-Wild)

Ganondorf awakens and hires John Wick to take out both Link and the Princess. He then supernaturally grants John Wick all of his arsenal and infinite ammo to aid him in his task. Ganon also orders the entire Yiga Clan to serve as backup for Mr. Wick.

Link will get all of his in-game abilities here.

Does Wick still need to reload? I don't think he's ever used any explosives, so nothing's stopping Link from taking cover and waiting him out for one good Guardian Arrow shot.
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Are we also using Payday 2's guns, or sticking to this movie?

However...

I have not played this game nor seen this film series, but uh, well...

Wick survived a full grenade launcher magazine. Granted, it's more than likely the guy doing it only meant to leave Wick homeless to 'encourage' him to work for him. So all that, plus potentially just being lucky, plus the fact there was plenty of cover John could take.

By the time Link's in the sights and is actively hostile, Wick's nailing him through the head. I don't know if the Yiga Clan's one-hit fatal attack implies they know the vital areas to target, but I'm not sure if Link can survive getting headshotted.

[The Drunkard Kid]

https://youtube.com/shorts/XdBgsUIJTV8

[The Arbiter]

Maxed out end of game Link is effortlessly beyond Wick. Wick couldn't particularly hurt the guy.

Link's primary antagonist is a guy that can explode castles, reshape landscapes and summon entire armies of creatures with a gesture. Wick is a very talented human assassin.

Even being shot in the head with a sniper rifle wouldn't do much. Link can survive horrible death lasers and be completely enveloped in enormous explosions without much detriment.

[Radioactive Zombie]

Maxed out end of game Link is effortlessly beyond Wick. Wick couldn't particularly hurt the guy.

Link's primary antagonist is a guy that can explode castles, reshape landscapes and summon entire armies of creatures with a gesture. Wick is a very talented human assassin.

Even being shot in the head with a sniper rifle wouldn't do much. Link can survive horrible death lasers and be completely enveloped in enormous explosions without much detriment.

Wick's survived several falls that would've killed an ordinary human, and even though Ganon explodes castles, endgame Link can still die from tumbling off a cliff or getting one-shotted by Yiga.

He's also got stamina on par with Endgame Link, given that he fought elite and armored High Table enforcers in both hand-to-hand and gunfights for at least an hour straight, and still had enough stamina to fight Caine, a guy who's been stated to be on par with Wick, to a standstill. Even before that, he led ninjas on a chase through NYC, fought armored Hight Table goons, then wiped out said ninja clan through the course of one night.

[The Arbiter]

Wick's survived several falls that would've killed an ordinary human, and even though Ganon explodes castles, endgame Link can still die from tumbling off a cliff or getting one-shotted by Yiga.

He's also got stamina on par with Endgame Link, given that he fought elite and armored High Table enforcers in both hand-to-hand and gunfights for at least an hour straight, and still had enough stamina to fight Caine, a guy who's been stated to be on par with Wick, to a standstill. Even before that, he led ninjas on a chase through NYC, fought armored Hight Table goons, then wiped out said ninja clan through the course of one night.

We can both point out low and high game mechanics all day long. For example, an enormous cyclops wielding a literal tree as a club can overhead smash said club onto end of game Link's head and it will only take away 1/2 of a single heart.

The trick with game play mechanics is seeing which showings fit into his narrative and character presentation with more credibility. Cuts Cutscenes/cinematics also carry more weight and can help us establish a better baseline.

In a BOTW cutscene, we see that Link has single handedly decimated 3 Lynels and 20+ other lesser monsters solo without a bow or shield - just the master sword. He only gets a small cut on on arm. Lynels are minibosses that can eat explosives to the face without much hassle and are strong enough to create shockwaves with their blows. In another BOTW cutscene, we also see that Link brought down a half dozen Guardians (a dozen?) by himself. These are elephant sized mechanical war machines that can shoot giant laser beams. Basically tanks. Again, no bow or shield. He can also shove around boulders taller than he is and survive point blank laser blasts and explosives without his armor. Lastly, in a TOTK cutscene, Link slams straight into a pond of still water without the benefit of armor and it doesn't leave a scratch. I mean it's a truly fatal fall. Well above terminal velocity. The resulting splash goes like 50 feet into the air or more and he's completely unharmed.

[Len Ikari145]

We can both point out low and high game mechanics all day long. For example, an enormous cyclops wielding a literal tree as a club can overhead smash said club onto end of game Link's head and it will only take away 1/2 of a single heart.

The trick with game play mechanics is seeing which showings fit into his narrative and character presentation with more credibility. Cuts Cutscenes/cinematics also carry more weight and can help us establish a better baseline.

In a BOTW cutscene, we see that Link has single handedly decimated 3 Lynels and 20+ other lesser monsters solo without a bow or shield - just the master sword. He only gets a small cut on on arm. Lynels are minibosses that can eat explosives to the face without much hassle and are strong enough to create shockwaves with their blows. In another BOTW cutscene, we also see that Link brought down a half dozen Guardians (a dozen?) by himself. These are elephant sized mechanical war machines that can shoot giant laser beams. Basically tanks. Again, no bow or shield. He can also shove around boulders taller than he is and survive point blank laser blasts and explosives without his armor. Lastly, in a TOTK cutscene, Link slams straight into a pond of still water without the benefit of armor and it doesn't leave a scratch. I mean it's a truly fatal fall. Well above terminal velocity. The resulting splash goes like 50 feet into the air or more and he's completely unharmed.

Link was also smashed through Hyrule Castle in a TOTK cutscene by Demon Dragon Ganondorf before their final fight.

[The Drunkard Kid]

We can both point out low and high game mechanics all day long. For example, an enormous cyclops wielding a literal tree as a club can overhead smash said club onto end of game Link's head and it will only take away 1/2 of a single heart.

The trick with game play mechanics is seeing which showings fit into his narrative and character presentation with more credibility. Cuts Cutscenes/cinematics also carry more weight and can help us establish a better baseline.

In a BOTW cutscene, we see that Link has single handedly decimated 3 Lynels and 20+ other lesser monsters solo without a bow or shield - just the master sword. He only gets a small cut on on arm. Lynels are minibosses that can eat explosives to the face without much hassle and are strong enough to create shockwaves with their blows. In another BOTW cutscene, we also see that Link brought down a half dozen Guardians (a dozen?) by himself. These are elephant sized mechanical war machines that can shoot giant laser beams. Basically tanks. Again, no bow or shield. He can also shove around boulders taller than he is and survive point blank laser blasts and explosives without his armor. Lastly, in a TOTK cutscene, Link slams straight into a pond of still water without the benefit of armor and it doesn't leave a scratch. I mean it's a truly fatal fall. Well above terminal velocity. The resulting splash goes like 50 feet into the air or more and he's completely unharmed.

While everything else is legitimate, I'm pretty sure that the last part is just a part of BotW's original policies of making the physics *feel* realistic rather than actually *be* realistic, because intuitively it feels like water would affect like a cushion rather than a hard surface upon impact from above a certain height, like how it feels right that lightning is attracted to metal armor when metal just conducts electricity really well rather than directly attracting it outright.

[Radioactive Zombie]

We can both point out low and high game mechanics all day long. For example, an enormous cyclops wielding a literal tree as a club can overhead smash said club onto end of game Link's head and it will only take away 1/2 of a single heart.

The trick with game play mechanics is seeing which showings fit into his narrative and character presentation with more credibility. Cuts Cutscenes/cinematics also carry more weight and can help us establish a better baseline.

In a BOTW cutscene, we see that Link has single handedly decimated 3 Lynels and 20+ other lesser monsters solo without a bow or shield - just the master sword. He only gets a small cut on on arm. Lynels are minibosses that can eat explosives to the face without much hassle and are strong enough to create shockwaves with their blows. In another BOTW cutscene, we also see that Link brought down a half dozen Guardians (a dozen?) by himself. These are elephant sized mechanical war machines that can shoot giant laser beams. Basically tanks. Again, no bow or shield. He can also shove around boulders taller than he is and survive point blank laser blasts and explosives without his armor. Lastly, in a TOTK cutscene, Link slams straight into a pond of still water without the benefit of armor and it doesn't leave a scratch. I mean it's a truly fatal fall. Well above terminal velocity. The resulting splash goes like 50 feet into the air or more and he's completely unharmed.

Wick's survived two high-building falls (and three, if you count the giant stairs) and still went on to wipe the floor with several of the High Table's best men. Lynels still die to regular arrows, and High Table goons are almost completely invulnerable.

[Captain Morgan]

Wick's survived two high-building falls (and three, if you count the giant stairs) and still went on to wipe the floor with several of the High Table's best men. Lynels still die to regular arrows, and High Table goons are almost completely invulnerable.

High table goons die a helluva lot quicker to arrows than Lynels do. https://youtu.be/Bv-ys7PyNe8

[Wildling]

Wick is cool but I don't like his chances in a dangerous enough fantasy action setting, I'd even wonder about his chances against the botched The Dark Tower movie adaptation Roland Deschain, where Roland was revealed to have done everything he did, looking for the Tower etc. after being exposed to radiation enough the current time Earth wanted to keep him hospitalized all the time.

[Radioactive Zombie]

High table goons die a helluva lot quicker to arrows than Lynels do. https://youtu.be/Bv-ys7PyNe8

Granted, but Lynels probably can't last through the armor-piercing slugs he uses against the High Table mooks in John Wick 3.

Wick is cool but I don't like his chances in a dangerous enough fantasy action setting, I'd even wonder about his chances against the botched The Dark Tower movie adaptation Roland Deschain, where Roland was revealed to have done everything he did, looking for the Tower etc. after being exposed to radiation enough the current time Earth wanted to keep him hospitalized all the time.

IIRC, Dark Tower movie Roland isn't as capable as his book self, but I've only seen some of the trick shots.