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    Ledger’s Joker randomly gets wind of a guy named Voldemort that it would be funny to kill. He gets all the information an informed Wizard from Harry potterverse might via capturing a Ministry of Magic worker and making him talk. He has a year to prep before the events of the beginning of Book 4 start.

    Can prep and craziness overcome magic in just the amount of time required to get a win? He can use whatever means necessary in the time of prep, what happens during this interval, or afterwards?
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    Since most of the wizarding world simply cannot be perceived by muggles, there is very little Joker can do. He also has no way of knowing about horcruxes, nor any way to locate and destroy them. He cannot reasonably get into a face-to-face confrontation with Voldemort. At most he would be an annoyance going around planting bombs or stealing things.

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    He can't learn to use magic without intrinsic talent. Maybe he could track Voldemort in the muggle world and shoot him with a sniper's rifle. But would that kind of physical attack do anything given the horcruxes? He might steal a nuclear weapon and vaporize Voldy if Voldy is in the Muggle world but I have no idea what that would do.

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    Huh. I forgot about Horcruxes. And I guess how insular the wizarding community is. I thought he could still grab a wizard or something to make one work for him though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Postmania View Post
    Huh. I forgot about Horcruxes. And I guess how insular the wizarding community is. I thought he could still grab a wizard or something to make one work for him though.
    How would he even know where to find them? Even if he does, what's stopping a wizard from just wiping Joker's memory?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy1 View Post
    How would he even know where to find them? Even if he does, what's stopping a wizard from just wiping Joker's memory?
    Well they have no idea who he is or where he is is the thing. And since he has the knowledge of a random Ministry or Magic wizard at the jump he might have some knowledge of a few people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Postmania View Post
    Well they have no idea who he is or where he is is the thing. And since he has the knowledge of a random Ministry or Magic wizard at the jump he might have some knowledge of a few people.
    A slight advantage but getting to them would be a problem and again, they can still smack him with magic. He'll need to be more careful here than when he's dealing with Nolan Bats. Go after their wands first.
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    If he grabs a low level wizard, so what? What is that wizard going to do against Voldy?

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    the only wizard tom feared was Dumbledore so having a random wizard with him isn't gonna do much. he'd have to do some heavy duty research to even get a whiff of what the horcruxes and even then, that's a lot since they are not easy to get to, even by wizard standards.

    also, considering how deep the death eaters were in wizarding society, some clown faced muggle's causing trouble will reach ol' tom's ears and he'd probably send some of his men to do with him. thinking on it deeper, considering his utter loathing he has for muggles, he'd probably do it himself out of a sense of pride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Smith View Post
    If he grabs a low level wizard, so what? What is that wizard going to do against Voldy?
    poo his robes, and pass out from fear. In that order, probably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Postmania View Post
    Ledger’s Joker randomly gets wind of a guy named Voldemort that it would be funny to kill. He gets all the information an informed Wizard from Harry potterverse might via capturing a Ministry of Magic worker and making him talk. He has a year to prep before the events of the beginning of Book 4 start.
    At the beginning of Book 4, or a year before that, wouldn't "an informed wizard" believe Voldemort to be dead and gone? Voldemort hasn't actually come back by that point, and even when he does come back, I thought there was still some time before it became common knowledge.

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    So, to go back. If Voldy is in the muggle world and a nuke goes off next to him. Is his body vaporized? If the horcruxes exist, does he come back?

    How about Joker getting a time machine and going back and killing Baby Tom - can he do that with prep?

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    His body is vaporized, but his spirit lives on as a ghost-type thing.

    a Retkill from before he made the Horicuxes would depend how the Time Machine he used works, but in HP logic, it's a self-fulfilling time loops, so he won't be able to kill the Real Voldemort as a baby or it'd mess up the timeline.
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