[Quote Originally Posted by Thor-El 10-15-2020 12:32 PM]
"Jason Aaron should know there is already a winner of the Phoenix Force and his name is Phoenixx9."
Like a Red Dragon, The Phoenix shall Soar in 2024!
True. Madeline Joyce--Miss America-- was supposed to have high super-strength being equal to 1000 men--but most times her strength varied greatly. I read that one could say between 5 tons and a max of 50 tons, with the hgher amount being at the beginning of her empowerment.
It seems like her powers waned over time, including her hyper-intelligence and ultra vision. The hyper-intelligence still left her with a clever, deductive detective-type mind, but her vision powers disappeared and seemingly decreased her vision so that she needed eyeglasses even in her superheroine identity. Her flying ability denegrated so that she had to take powerful leaps with a minor gliding ability.
The only thing that seemed to stay the same was her "super vitality" as she called it which allowed her to operate at peak levels for extended periods of time with little to no tiring.
[Quote Originally Posted by Thor-El 10-15-2020 12:32 PM]
"Jason Aaron should know there is already a winner of the Phoenix Force and his name is Phoenixx9."
Like a Red Dragon, The Phoenix shall Soar in 2024!
Monolith (from the recent Hulk run) might be up there as well -if- they decide to ever use her again...
[Quote Originally Posted by Thor-El 10-15-2020 12:32 PM]
"Jason Aaron should know there is already a winner of the Phoenix Force and his name is Phoenixx9."
Like a Red Dragon, The Phoenix shall Soar in 2024!
If memory serves, I think Marvel was either threatened with a lawsuit or feared one, so they gradually changed Miss America's powers to be less Superman-like. Jokingly, I blame patriarchal, anti-feminist bent for the reduction of her powers to more or less "run of the mill" levels.
Many of Marvel's fabulous females either start out too powerful and get rolled back next to male counterparts or start out the weakest link and then become too powerful, thus necessitating a rollback. I'd like to focus on the strongest ones for my next dream team fanfic. I need a truly strong woman for my version of the Titans Three.
Lambda-Zero (Earth-616)
Stardust
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Lambda-Zero_(Earth-616)Powers
Like other heralds, Stardust was granted the almighty and divine "infinite" Power Cosmic by Galactus himself. She was deemed to be a "universal" threat level by the Nova Corps.[8] Her abilities before becoming a herald are unknown.
Superhuman Strength: Stardust possesses vast superhuman strength, as she easily shattered an entire planet when she slammed an asteroid into it.[citation needed]
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This verison is 20 tons.
Zarda Shelton (Earth-712)
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Zarda...on_(Earth-712)Superhuman Strength: Zarda possessed superhuman strength that allows her to lift around 20 tons.[9]
Tsu-Zana (Earth-616)
Ultragirl
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Tsu-Zana_(Earth-616)Superhuman Strength: Ultragirl is superhumanly strong and is capable of lifting at least 50 tons.
Tarene (Earth-616)
—Tarene as Thor Girl[src]
Designate
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Tarene_(Earth-616)Superhuman Strength: Tarene has vast superhuman strength that enables her to lift appropriately 75 tons.
Angela
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Aldri...ir_(Earth-616)Superhuman Strength: As an Asgardian Angela possesses an incredible level of superhuman strength, while the average Asgardian goddess can lift (press) around 25 tons Angela is twice as strong, being able to lift around 50 tons.[44] Considering her ability to match an admittedly weary and wounded Thor blow for blow, noting that he had "a slight edge in raw strength."[4]
Squirrel Girl
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Doreen_Green_(Earth-616)Superhuman Strength: Squirrel Girl is super-humanly strong and can lift between 800 lbs and 25 tons.[39]
Gamora
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Gamor...n_(Earth-7528)Enhanced Strength: Gamora's natural strength has been increased by Thanos, Adam Warlock, the Black Vortex and other factors to the point where her current strength level is around 25 tons.[13]
Nebula (Earth-616)
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Nebula_(Earth-616)Superhuman Strength: She possesses the ability to lift weights up to 60 tons.[31]
Ayesha (Earth-616)
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Ayesha_(Earth-616)Kismet
Superhuman Strength: The cosmic energy stored in Her's body grants her physical strength that is far superior to that of a human being. Her musculature, connective tissues, and skeletal structure are augmented to far superior levels. At her peak, she possesses sufficient superhuman strength to lift approximately 70 tons.
Phyla-Vell (Earth-616)
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Phyla-Vell_(Earth-616)Super-Humanoid Strength Like her father, Phyla possessed super-humanoid strength greater than the average human or Kree. Due to her Titan background, she was potentially stronger than either race. She was originally able to lift around 5 tons[28] but her current levels of strength are unknown as she was powerful enough to restrain an enraged She-Hulk with her bare hands, break out of a Quantum Energy Construct using purely physical force and trade blows with the cosmic tyrant Annihilus backed by the Quantum Bands while holding her own.[citation needed]
Karima Shapandar (Earth-616)
Omega Sentinel
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Karim...ar_(Earth-616)Superhuman Strength: Karima possesses heightened physical strength, the exact limits of which are unknown, it is believed to be around 70 tons of force as is the norm for most Prime Sentinels.
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Hippolyta (Earth-616)
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Hippolyta_(Earth-616)Superhuman Strength: Like all Olympians, Hippolyta is superhumanly strong. Her strength is much greater than the vast majority of Olympian females, or even Olympian males. Hippolyta used to be of class 50 strength, whereas the typical Olympian male is of class 30. However, her strength was recently vastly enhanced when resurrected by various death gods, and it now considerably exceeds her father, Ares, who is a class 70. Likely placing her close to the class 100 level.
Didn't Tarene hold her own against Gladiator for a bit?
No way she in Thing level strength level.
Thanks. Stardust is listed as "agender", which might be a disqualifier here. Then again, if the Ethereal are just beings comprised of energy capable of choosing any form they choose, I could just as easily pen as a woman, I suppose. Have to think about that one.
Another name that comes to mind, now that I think of cosmic types: Star-Dancer. Do we really know the upper limits of her strength? I was under the impression that she gets stronger as she absorbs more and more cosmic energy. I wonder if that translates into practically "incalculable."
I remember the ambiguity around what sex was Stardust for the longest time. Later, I heard both male and female but neither was definitive. I still don't know if Stardust is male or female, lol.
I was likewise thinking of Star-Dancer (in her all silvery costume!) who is a cosmic entity. I believe about 70 tons but she could further augment to Cl 100 with cosmic energy. I did not think you wanted cosmics like Star-Dancer or Her.
[Quote Originally Posted by Thor-El 10-15-2020 12:32 PM]
"Jason Aaron should know there is already a winner of the Phoenix Force and his name is Phoenixx9."
Like a Red Dragon, The Phoenix shall Soar in 2024!