MJ as Jackpot is real

[Huntsman Spider]

Someone pointed out that Marvel has absolutely not had Mary Jane involved in any of the compelling, real-world actress drama that we were experiencing with the #MeToo movement, the Weinstein abuse controversies, the blacklisting drama, sexist trolls and targeted harassment campaigns, the gender wage-gap strikes, or countless other very timely, relevant, and meaningful things women were experiencing in the entertainment industry.

It's an incredibly obvious missed opportunity to have Mary Jane be apart of these kind of events, speaking out, being an advocate, and fighting back against an industry that was exposed as incredibly hostile and toxic to women.

It's RIGHT THERE. That's HER career of choice. They barely touched upon it.

An extremely valid point, especially given older comics occasionally had her engaged in activism as well.

[scouse mouse]

So embarrassing.

[Spider-Tiger]

That's what this run was supposed to be, lol. They even brought back a BND writer.

They split Peter and MJ up with more magic. Pulled another OMIT by explaining the circumstances after the fact. And made the big villains of year one Rabin and Wayep and tied that to a new version of Jackpot.

While another back to basics run would be great (pretty much early Spencer before he went knee deep into the Kindred subplot) the last thing we need is more BND lol

[Chris0013]

Someone pointed out that Marvel has absolutely not had Mary Jane involved in any of the compelling, real-world actress drama that we were experiencing with the #MeToo movement, the Weinstein abuse controversies, the blacklisting drama, sexist trolls and targeted harassment campaigns, the gender wage-gap strikes, or countless other very timely, relevant, and meaningful things women were experiencing in the entertainment industry.

It's an incredibly obvious missed opportunity to have Mary Jane be apart of these kind of events, speaking out, being an advocate, and fighting back against an industry that was exposed as incredibly hostile and toxic to women.

It's RIGHT THERE. That's HER career of choice. They barely touched upon it.

An extremely valid point, especially given older comics occasionally had her engaged in activism as well.

And does anyone see MJ putting up with some creeper producer trying to get something out of her?

[Garlador]

An extremely valid point, especially given older comics occasionally had her engaged in activism as well.

Yep.

I miss this. This was the kind of stuff that proved Mary Jane could be a hero and advocate in her own way without a costume or superpowers, in a way that you and I can be.

[Huntsman Spider]

And does anyone see MJ putting up with some creeper producer trying to get something out of her?

Hells, no. Also, Jonathon Caesar, as a rich bastard who felt himself entitled to whomever and whatever he wanted, stalking and harassing MJ, then going out of his way to ruin her career prospects when she got him sent to prison for kidnapping her . . . well, aside from the outright kidnapping, that is unfortunately extremely true to life.

Yep.

I miss this. This was the kind of stuff that proved Mary Jane could be a hero and advocate in her own way without a costume or superpowers, in a way that you and I can be.

Oh, yes. Yes, indeed.

[Frontier]

I hate saying this because I see MJ as a very competent and capable woman but at this point I'd love to see her just crash and burn as a Superhero because of how dumb her motivations are going to seem and how inconsistent her powers are.

[Mercwmouth12]

I hate saying this because I see MJ as a very competent and capable woman but at this point I'd love to see her just crash and burn as a Superhero because of how dumb her motivations are going to seem and how inconsistent her powers are.

True but this is just a temporary thing but big thing is who is writing it and can they actually do the character justice

[Kevinroc]

They could always do another Spider-MJ thanks to Spider-Verse if they wanted to play around with the concept. I still think that would be a fun AU. The fact that we've never had a dedicated Spider-MJ universe where she was the uncontested protagonist (as opposed to a supporting character or shared the protagonist spotlight with her family) is weird to me.

[Vegan]

I hate saying this because I see MJ as a very competent and capable woman but at this point I'd love to see her just crash and burn as a Superhero because of how dumb her motivations are going to seem and how inconsistent her powers are.

I feel bad for the creative team though. What an awful motivation to have dumped in your lap

[Lee]

It's a huge problem. Like MJ should be mad she wasted the last five years of her life, sure. But they were never real people. So any grief over losing them past a certain point is ....forced? I dunno it doesn't feel significant enough.

That's not how grief works. This isn't something someone would get over quickly or easily.

[Frontier]

They could always do another Spider-MJ thanks to Spider-Verse if they wanted to play around with the concept. I still think that would be a fun AU. The fact that we've never had a dedicated Spider-MJ universe where she was the uncontested protagonist (as opposed to a supporting character or shared the protagonist spotlight with her family) is weird to me.

I will say in the interest of fairness that randomized luck powers is a little more unique than just making her another woman with spider-powers.

An Elseworld where it's just her with the powers would be interesting, though I can at least understand why they're leaning into a different gimmick for 616.

That's not how grief works. This isn't something someone would get over quickly or easily.

I think the problem is just the execution or premise of that grief.

Honestly having Aunt Anna get killed off by a Supervillain or something would probably be more believable than making this about the Rabin kids.

[Garlador]

I feel bad for the creative team though. What an awful motivation to have dumped in your lap

It’s not great.

I always keep an open mind though. Wally West was at his absolute lowest during “Heroes in Crisis”, but they were able to write him out of it and build him back up.

I HOPE they can do that with MJ. She deserves a redemption run.

[Frontier]

The interview and promotion with the writer is going to be very important for this book.

[Spider-Tiger]

They could always do another Spider-MJ thanks to Spider-Verse if they wanted to play around with the concept. I still think that would be a fun AU. The fact that we've never had a dedicated Spider-MJ universe where she was the uncontested protagonist (as opposed to a supporting character or shared the protagonist spotlight with her family) is weird to me.

Perhaps they've avoided this in previous Spider-verse events because they feel it would encroach too much on Ghost Spider and Spinneret territory.

I think MJ as a hero could be a fun au spin-off if they leaned into the camp: Working model/actress by day and Spider-woman (or Jackpot) by night.

What they're doing with this version of Jackpot does not seem to be that type of book though. They're already starting with a really heavy premise with two children dead.