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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Tzitzimine View Post
    That was terrible, just another rehash of "villain makes the boys relive their worst failures to break them down" that we've already seen before, Jason and Tim are being written as newbies falling right on the trap and regressing them to their pre-N52 characterizations so the story can work.
    It's funny how Tim and Jason must have the most reset character development of any Batfamily character not named Bruce.

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    I feel like this reception shows how the New 52 era "Batfamily" dynamic especially among the former Robins has completely overstayed its welcome. Even around the Batman and Robin Eternal and Robin War period we had reached a point where every event started to feel fairly like a checklist of one-note and predictable, almost obligatory, character interactions with the predictable accompanying jokes and snark that always covered the same beats. Years out and its still the same worn out checklist dragged past the point of parody and meta-awareness (King's run) all the way back to being aggravatingly formulaic.
    It's the Dynamic Duo! Batman and Robin!... and Red Robin and Red Hood and Nightwing and Batwoman and Batgirl and Orphan and Spoiler and Bluebird and Lark and Gotham Girl and Talon and Batwing and Huntress and Azreal and Flamebird and Batcow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    It's funny how Tim and Jason must have the most reset character development of any Batfamily character not named Bruce.
    No, I think that still goes to Damian. His writers need to understand that humbling him has been more than overdone. He's basically incompetent and worthless at this point because his writers still constantly think they are the first ones to "fix" early Damian and make him realise he's not "the best" at anything.
    Even though that has been basically every Damian arc of the past several years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astralabius View Post
    No, I think that still goes to Damian. His writers need to understand that humbling him has been more than overdone. He's basically incompetent and worthless at this point because his writers still constantly think they are the first ones to "fix" early Damian and make him realise he's not "the best" at anything.
    Even though that has been basically every Damian arc of the past several years.
    Outside of Dick, it seems that those 3 are reset after almost every arc or so, let alone each new writer. Dick, outside his romances, is rarely reset (outside of Titans, anyway).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pohzee View Post
    I feel like this reception shows how the New 52 era "Batfamily" dynamic especially among the former Robins has completely overstayed its welcome. Even around the Batman and Robin Eternal and Robin War period we had reached a point where every event started to feel fairly like a checklist of one-note and predictable, almost obligatory, character interactions with the predictable accompanying jokes and snark that always covered the same beats. Years out and its still the same worn out checklist dragged past the point of parody and meta-awareness (King's run) all the way back to being aggravatingly formulaic.
    No, the N52 Batfamily dynamics are extremely well-liked (just look at the wild success of Wayne Family Adventures) because it actually let them interact with each other as actual brothers instead of having them at each other throats like a bunch of dogs. In this mini Jason and Tim are dressed to their pre-N52 interactions where Jason always went for cheap shots whenever he met Tim or Dick

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    https://leagueofcomicgeeks.com/profi...hread/17772185

    So is this shade at Tim's current run or........

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    Quote Originally Posted by NOCTPHOENIX View Post
    https://leagueofcomicgeeks.com/profi...hread/17772185

    So is this shade at Tim's current run or........
    Tim on a boat will age well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Tzitzimine View Post
    That was terrible, just another rehash of "villain makes the boys relive their worst failures to break them down" that we've already seen before, Jason and Tim are being written as newbies falling right on the trap and regressing them to their pre-N52 characterizations so the story can work.
    Yeah, this was laughably bad. I had just gained a tiny bit of hope for this because the twist at the end of Knight Terrors #1 was actually pretty cool and the Mary Marvel story was pretty fun and then I read this and I was back to thinking this event was a waste of paper.
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