To be honest Lucius hasn't felt the same to me since the Jace Batman book. Really broke my respect for him.
To be honest Lucius hasn't felt the same to me since the Jace Batman book. Really broke my respect for him.
This was my thought from the very beginning. It seems now though that the Drummer fits more than previously expected, but as for Jace and specifically Kate....Outsiders, while seemingly fitting on basis of the name, isn't an omniversal/multiverse title. It's not what readers want when they think Outsiders. These characters are not this either. I mean, if you want basic, popular characters for something like this....Tim Drake, Kon and Cassie have more experience and even some expectation for stories such as this.
They really should have gone with another name other than Outsiders. Plus a larger cast would have potentially been more interesting. I'm intrigued with the revelation of the Drummer, but not enough so I think to start buying the book again, except at the local used book store where I can probably find the issues for about a dollar each eventually.
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When I think Batwoman and Batwing I don't think discovery and "understanding" or whatever it is exactly that the writing team for this said - I expect them to go charging into fights. Some assocation with Batman is kind of implied by their titles too. And they are both usually depicted with some level of arrogance, so the empathy angle for this series with these characters is a weird choice. It's part of the reason why they both feel off in this series, but particularly Luke.
All because Ridley wanted to make Jace blasian (black/Asian) because his own kids are.
I get wanting inclusion and seeing yourself/your kids in comics but he picked the worst way to go about it.
The writing here not only makes them ineffectual but they also wind up looking pretentious because of the book's general "I'm too cool for superheroes" tone. So Jace and Kate are all "I'm above being a superhero, I solve my problems intelligently" so they wind up looking like try-hard douches.
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Well, it's messing-up Luke, but I think it's been made quite clear that Kate will be staying as Batwoman in the long term. They had that part in #3 about recruiting Luke but Kate "dreaming of Bats" and hence being too far gone or something, plus it looks like she temporarily leaves the group in coming issues - I think she'll return to the status quo in Gotham after #12. Not so sure about Luke though.
I'm really REALLY not happy that the writers chose to
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Take away the happy ending of Planetary #27
I don't CARE how meta it is.
Like 1% of Planetary readers will ever read this, and real number will be likely way lower. Who cares.
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In brief:
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It's revealed on the last page that the Drummer is Jakita Wagner. Specifically, the Jakita Wagner from Planetary who is looking for Elijah Snow, which suggests that somehow between the end of the series and now, that universe was lost/destroyed.