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    Quote Originally Posted by Arachne View Post
    Yep, pretty much. The only thing I'm not sure about is flight. It's in the tk set, but it might be useful to have Flight 1 from the basic set, as well. I'll have to check later.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arachne View Post
    I looked it up. Levitation is Flight without a speed increase. So she'd be flying 5 feet a second instead of 30 feet a second.
    Thanks for checking. So, Jean should get both Levitation and Flight since she can do both and fly much faster than 5 feet per second.
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    I'd probably just give her Flight and Group Flight and ignore the Levitation branch all together. There not much difference, other than speed and theme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arachne View Post
    I'd probably just give her Flight and Group Flight and ignore the Levitation branch all together. There not much difference, other than speed and theme.
    Ah, that sounds perfect. Thanks!
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    I do take issue with kate Pryde's logic score of 1 which I understood to be a measure of her intelligence. Have I misunderstood what "logic" means in the game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvelman View Post
    I do take issue with kate Pryde's logic score of 1 which I understood to be a measure of her intelligence. Have I misunderstood what "logic" means in the game?
    I <think> Logic here is for Psionic Abilities...?

    But Arachne would know much better than I.
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    Sorry for missing this, I was avoiding spoilers.

    Logic is used for mental powers, but it's also used for non-combat intellect checks, so yeah, that's low for Kate. Human (non-powered) ability scores range from -3 to +3, with 0 being average. I'd say Kate should be at least a 2, but that requires shifting something from another ability or giving up a power. I think 1 power equals 1 ability point, but I've got so many games in my head right now, I'm not sure.

    Found a really good video on character creation. He does seem to miss that you have to have the "heroic" tag to get Karma points, though. Also, Matt Forbeck said in a Q&A that Iconic weapons should probably stack, but that's not actually in the book, which says defense multipliers never stack.


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    The new Cataclysm of Kang book is out! I don't have it, yet, but I got the character list. X-characters and X adjacent characters are in bold.

    Agent Sum 1
    Alpha Primitive 1
    Arnim Zola 3
    Veta Ray Bill 5
    Black Knights/Fenris Twins 3
    Blindspot (Sam Chung) 2
    Bulldozer (Wrecking Crew) 3
    Captain America (Sam Wilson) 4
    Captain Avalon (Brian Bradsock) 5
    Claire Dixon 1
    Cloak 3
    Cole North 2
    Colleen Wing 2
    Crimson Surfer 6
    Crystal 4
    Dagger 3
    Dakota North 1
    Demolisher (Wrecking Crew) 2
    Doombot 3
    Egghead 2
    Frog-Man 1
    Gorgon 4
    Gorgon (Tomi Shishido) 4
    Growing Man 4
    Hawkeye (Kate Bishop) 2
    H.E.R.B.I.E 2
    Hive 3
    Hood 2
    Hydra Officer 2
    Hyperion 5
    Inhuman Royal Guard 2
    Ironheart (Riri Williams) 3
    Iron Fist (Lin Lie) 3
    Jean Grey 6
    J. Jonah Jameson 1
    Kang the Conqueror 5
    Karnak 4
    Lockjaw 3
    Logos (of Earth 56438) 2
    Madame Masque 2
    Maddy Cho 1
    Maggia Tough 1
    Mariah Hill 2
    May Parker 1
    Medusa 4
    Mockingbird (Bobbi Morse) 2
    Nick Fury Sr 3
    Nighthawk (Kyle Richmond) 3
    Nova (Rich Rider) 5
    Patriot (Rayshaun Lucas) 2
    Phoenix (Maya López) 6
    Piledriver (Wrecking Crew) 3
    Quasar 6
    Rama-Tut 4
    Silver Surfer 6
    Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew) 4
    Stick 2
    Thunderball (Wrecking Crew) 3
    Tigra 3
    Viper 2
    Warlock 6
    Wrecker (Wrecking Cree) 3

    Nice to see Jean Grey get in ahead of the X-Men book. For some reason, Quasar's picture is actually Rich Rider when he had the quantum bands - not Wendell Vaughn.

    Vid I got the list from:

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    Thank you so much for posting this, Arachne!

    Ooh, so glad to see Jean score a 6! I was afraid they were going to put her at 4 or 5.

    I knew Jean would be here because this cover was advertised for a while now and Jean is prominent on the cover.

    While I would loved to have also seen Jean with the Phoenix and the Phoenix Force itself, at least they included the Phoenix Echo stats.
    [Quote Originally Posted by Thor-El 10-15-2020 12:32 PM]

    "Jason Aaron should know there is already a winner of the Phoenix Force and his name is Phoenixx9."


    Like a Red Dragon, The Phoenix shall Soar in 2024!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenixx9 View Post
    Thank you so much for posting this, Arachne!

    Ooh, so glad to see Jean score a 6! I was afraid they were going to put her at 4 or 5.

    I knew Jean would be here because this cover was advertised for a while now and Jean is prominent on the cover.

    While I would loved to have also seen Jean with the Phoenix and the Phoenix Force itself, at least they included the Phoenix Echo stats.
    Fans are definitely no gonna blend Jean with Phoenix, probably take stats to apply to Jean.

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    Arachne: Have you created any more character profiles? Or are you going to use the ones from the books? Have you been making up your own versions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arachne View Post
    The new Cataclysm of Kang book is out! I don't have it, yet, but I got the character list. X-characters and X adjacent characters are in bold.

    Agent Sum 1
    Alpha Primitive 1
    Arnim Zola 3
    Veta Ray Bill 5
    Black Knights/Fenris Twins 3
    Blindspot (Sam Chung) 2
    Bulldozer (Wrecking Crew) 3
    Captain America (Sam Wilson) 4
    Captain Avalon (Brian Bradsock) 5
    Claire Dixon 1
    Cloak 3
    Cole North 2
    Colleen Wing 2
    Crimson Surfer 6
    Crystal 4
    Dagger 3
    Dakota North 1
    Demolisher (Wrecking Crew) 2
    Doombot 3
    Egghead 2
    Frog-Man 1
    Gorgon 4
    Gorgon (Tomi Shishido) 4
    Growing Man 4
    Hawkeye (Kate Bishop) 2
    H.E.R.B.I.E 2
    Hive 3
    Hood 2
    Hydra Officer 2
    Hyperion 5
    Inhuman Royal Guard 2
    Ironheart (Riri Williams) 3
    Iron Fist (Lin Lie) 3
    Jean Grey 6
    J. Jonah Jameson 1
    Kang the Conqueror 5
    Karnak 4
    Lockjaw 3
    Logos (of Earth 56438) 2
    Madame Masque 2
    Maddy Cho 1
    Maggia Tough 1
    Mariah Hill 2
    May Parker 1
    Medusa 4
    Mockingbird (Bobbi Morse) 2
    Nick Fury Sr 3
    Nighthawk (Kyle Richmond) 3
    Nova (Rich Rider) 5
    Patriot (Rayshaun Lucas) 2
    Phoenix (Maya López) 6
    Piledriver (Wrecking Crew) 3
    Quasar 6
    Rama-Tut 4
    Silver Surfer 6
    Spider-Woman (Jessica Drew) 4
    Stick 2
    Thunderball (Wrecking Crew) 3
    Tigra 3
    Viper 2
    Warlock 6
    Wrecker (Wrecking Cree) 3

    Nice to see Jean Grey get in ahead of the X-Men book. For some reason, Quasar's picture is actually Rich Rider when he had the quantum bands - not Wendell Vaughn.

    Vid I got the list from:
    Needs Cable.
    “Not as good as I once was… but I’m as good, once, as I ever was.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackraow21 View Post
    Needs Cable.
    He most likely will be in the X-Man Expansion Book.
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    Arachne: I would be interested in knowing your thoughts once you do have this new book. I am still deciding if this is good to get (or not).

    Also, your likes/dislikes, have the rules been updated (or changed?), have they provided any character updates (corrections) or modifications?

    Thank you!
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    Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention there's an errata file available at https://www.marvel.com/rpg I haven't looked at it, yet, but there seems to be a lot of character updates.

    If and when I get the book, I'll definitely post about it. It might not be until January, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arachne View Post
    Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention there's an errata file available at https://www.marvel.com/rpg I haven't looked at it, yet, but there seems to be a lot of character updates.

    If and when I get the book, I'll definitely post about it. It might not be until January, though.
    Hi Arachne!

    Thanks. I will have to look at that when I get time. It will be interesting to see the updates/changes.

    Maybe Santa will bring you one. I heard you were good this year!
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    "Jason Aaron should know there is already a winner of the Phoenix Force and his name is Phoenixx9."


    Like a Red Dragon, The Phoenix shall Soar in 2024!

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