Thanos mini by Christopher Cantwell announced, featuring the Illuminati

[Agent Z]

This has to be Bendis Illuminati and not Hickman's Illumanti.

What's the difference?

[JudicatorPrime]

85-90% probability on this very description coming true, lol. One can only hope Cantwell does a lil more reading of what Adam is capable of and at least shows a tad more of a guy can more than hold his own with any of these guys in the room.

I'm going to hold off on buying it for that very reason: I don't trust Cantwell. I know if this was DC, we'd get a "Superman vs. Darkseid" type battle at the end with Superman showing exactly why he's Superman. But this is Marvel, and even though Thanos is comprised of matter, and Blue Marvel is capable of annihilating any and all matter, just like he did with the Beyonder who took a material form, we probably won't get to see any of that. We'll probably get another story where Adam mysteriously loses all of his antimatter abilities and never actually gets an Infinity Stone of any kind.

[Cap808]

I can understand Emma being in the Illuminati being married to Tony, but why haven't these brainiacs in the Illuminati included Cyclops yet?

It can't be for past sins because Illuminati membership seems to ask for members living in glass houses. I would think his track record as a strategist is in the category of Captain America. Speaking of which, Cap isn't in the Illuminati either...

[JudicatorPrime]

I can understand Emma being in the Illuminati being married to Tony, but why haven't these brainiacs in the Illuminati included Cyclops yet?

It can't be for past sins because Illuminati membership seems to ask for members living in glass houses. I would think his track record as a strategist is in the category of Captain America. Speaking of which, Cap isn't in the Illuminati either...

Perhaps Cap is too noble a character for the Illuminati?

[classicgmer]

I'm going to hold off on buying it for that very reason: I don't trust Cantwell. I know if this was DC, we'd get a "Superman vs. Darkseid" type battle at the end with Superman showing exactly why he's Superman. But this is Marvel, and even though Thanos is comprised of matter, and Blue Marvel is capable of annihilating any and all matter, just like he did with the Beyonder who took a material form, we probably won't get to see any of that. We'll probably get another story where Adam mysteriously loses all of his antimatter abilities and never actually gets an Infinity Stone of any kind.

What's the current status of the Infinity Gems/stones anyhow? Last I read I thought they all had hosts like Star/ Ripley Ryan

[dkrook]

I'm going to hold off on buying it for that very reason: I don't trust Cantwell. I know if this was DC, we'd get a "Superman vs. Darkseid" type battle at the end with Superman showing exactly why he's Superman. But this is Marvel, and even though Thanos is comprised of matter, and Blue Marvel is capable of annihilating any and all matter, just like he did with the Beyonder who took a material form, we probably won't get to see any of that. We'll probably get another story where Adam mysteriously loses all of his antimatter abilities and never actually gets an Infinity Stone of any kind.

Exactly, what's interesting is to see what consideration is given to the fact Adam was able work to stop Thanos while with The Ultimates.

[Cap808]

Perhaps Cap is too noble a character for the Illuminati?

Ya know, I sat here trying to figure out how to respond to this...then I realized that you're absolutely right. Cap won't stand for an Illuminati, let alone be a part of one.

[ed2962]

Ya know, I sat here trying to figure out how to respond to this...then I realized that you're absolutely right. Cap won't stand for an Illuminati, let alone be a part of one.

He already was. He was in an early issue of Hickman's run. He didn't like an action the group was going to take, so instead of working it out or agreeing to disagree, the others mindwiped him and got rid of him. Which leads to another point...the whole point of the Illuminati is that not that these are the best minds of the Marvel Universe who are able to solve the big problems, it's that they're the big shots who keep secrets from their teammates and compromise their values and by doing so, make everything worse.

[JudicatorPrime]

What's the current status of the Infinity Gems/stones anyhow? Last I read I thought they all had hosts like Star/ Ripley Ryan

I honestly don't know the status, but that would be one way to ensure that Thanos doesn't get his hands on the stones again. At least not without killing all of the current wielders and using their desiccated bodies as Infinity relics, i.e., stones. Wait a sec, that's EXACTLY what Thanos would do. Maybe this series won't be so bad after all?

[Will Evans]

I can understand Emma being in the Illuminati being married to Tony, but why haven't these brainiacs in the Illuminati included Cyclops yet?

It can't be for past sins because Illuminati membership seems to ask for members living in glass houses. I would think his track record as a strategist is in the category of Captain America. Speaking of which, Cap isn't in the Illuminati either...

Cyclops is currently a prisoner of Orchis

[Digifiend]

Man the Eternals just vanished from the comics didn't they?

Yeah, Sersi was killed off at the end of Judgement Day, but the others haven't been used since then either.

Perhaps Cap is too noble a character for the Illuminati?

If I remember right, he found out about them, but they wiped his memory!

[Alex_Of_X]

A kindler, gentler Illuminati, eh? lol. Lmao

Big Purple better wreck their club

[Sutekh]

Ya know, I sat here trying to figure out how to respond to this...then I realized that you're absolutely right. Cap won't stand for an Illuminati, let alone be a part of one.

Cap being part of a meta-organization of heroes who specifically sometimes try to do the harder 'right' thing, rather than the 'more effective' practical thing, less morally flexible and more prone to stop and ponder '*should* we be doing this?' would be neat.

People like himself, Spider-Man, the Thing, Jean Gray, Colossus, Wonder Man, Ms. Marvel, Shang-Chi, Songbird, Falcon, Blue Marvel, etc.

[Cap808]

Cyclops is currently a prisoner of Orchis

Ahh, well I figured it was something like that which kept him 'indisposed' to taking a seat at this sketchy table. However, I shrugged it off assuming that the powers-that-be that print this book, don't really care about continuity.

[Cap808]

He already was. He was in an early issue of Hickman's run. He didn't like an action the group was going to take, so instead of working it out or agreeing to disagree, the others mindwiped him and got rid of him. Which leads to another point...the whole point of the Illuminati is that not that these are the best minds of the Marvel Universe who are able to solve the big problems, it's that they're the big shots who keep secrets from their teammates and compromise their values and by doing so, make everything worse.

Didn't I read a story like this in DC where they mindwiped Green Arrow and Batman? Can't keep track of all the crisis that DC characters go through, but that might have been Identity Crisis?