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    It must be so surreal bringing her back to the Fortress after the mind-wipe to meet his parents...

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    I am digging how Venditti flips which set of parents has survived into Superman’s adulthood. Glad to see them show up here and be acknowledged. That said… this book is lacking in a sense of narrative weight compared to the first volume. Everything is so decompressed and doesn’t give Clark much in the way of inner narration to slow things down. Plot is also a little too simplistic and straightforward, it’s a bunch of nice character moments but nothing more so far.

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    It must be so surreal bringing her back to the Fortress after the mind-wipe to meet his parents...
    Funnily enough Venditti does have him almost reveal himself again! I dunno, I personally don’t want that. I feel like this incarnation of Superman should never get to marry Lois, him having bungled that relationship All-Star style feels more fitting.
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    That's Donner Superman filtered through the lens of the Post-Crisis sensibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Son of Krypton View Post
    That's Donner Superman filtered through the lens of the Post-Crisis sensibility.
    I’d say moreso in line with Morrison sensibility honestly. It’s very Everyman+, you bring the girl you like to meet your folks, but your folks are aliens from another planet who have been miniaturized, live in a bottle, and you have a whole secret identity you don’t know how to share with your girl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    I’d say moreso in line with Morrison sensibility honestly. It’s very Everyman+, you bring the girl you like to meet your folks, but your folks are aliens from another planet who have been miniaturized, live in a bottle, and you have a whole secret identity you don’t know how to share with your girl.
    It feels like Venditti wants to recreate a variation of the post-Crisis status quo (parents alive, Clark revealing his id to Lois) but with the Donnerverse setting. Something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    It must be so surreal bringing her back to the Fortress after the mind-wipe to meet his parents...
    I thought these ones were set after the original, but before any of the sequels.

    EDIT: Nevermind, my mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Son of Krypton View Post
    It feels like Venditti wants to recreate a variation of the post-Crisis status quo (parents alive, Clark revealing his id to Lois) but with the Donnerverse setting. Something like that.
    Might be what he’d like to do but since this takes place between 2 and 3 we know it won’t happen. Does seem to be taking from the Post Crisis take on Sam Lane which suits me, though he’s taking his sweet time bringing Sam into the story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    Might be what he’d like to do but since this takes place between 2 and 3 we know it won’t happen. Does seem to be taking from the Post Crisis take on Sam Lane which suits me, though he’s taking his sweet time bringing Sam into the story.
    The story placement between SM II and III is so weird. It's not like he is filling the gaps between films.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Son of Krypton View Post
    The story placement between SM II and III is so weird. It's not like he is filling the gaps between films.
    It could take place at any point in his career if you wanted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Son of Krypton View Post
    The story placement between SM II and III is so weird. It's not like he is filling the gaps between films.
    It’s moreso that he doesn’t want to acknowledge III and IV since those two aren’t well regarded I reckon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    It’s moreso that he doesn’t want to acknowledge III and IV since those two aren’t well regarded I reckon.
    This is kind of a shame as he might be able to do something interesting with them. Anything can be (at least somewhat) redeemed by a good creative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superduperman View Post
    It could take place at any point in his career if you wanted.
    I know. In my headcanon, the Superman '78 comics are set after IV.

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    It’s moreso that he doesn’t want to acknowledge III and IV since those two aren’t well regarded I reckon.
    And Supergirl that was set between III and IV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Son of Krypton View Post
    I know. In my headcanon, the Superman '78 comics are set after IV.
    That only will be confirmed when we see the return of the Nuclear Man.

    And Supergirl that was set between III and IV.
    I think Supergirl happened depiste III & IV.
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    Hit me that part of the reason Venditti teased the Bizarro World version of Bizarro is because Nuclear Man basically is the clone version of Bizarro with a different name.
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    You mean Nuclear Man 1? That is a bit of info few people know about.
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