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    Paranormal Activity 3...

    ...which finally explains why adult sisters Katie and Kristy had been haunted by a demon since childhood. This was almost as frightening as the first film and filled in the blanks from the first two films.

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    I've sort of had a kind of 'fanon' idea that Bond James "losing" 006 in 1986 in the pre-title sequence of Goldeneye explains why he's so salty in the Dalton films (Which take place 1987-1989).


    I kind of wonder if part of the reason they set the opening sequence then is because it would've been when Pierce was supposed to be cast, or perhaps in a more negative light, that they wanted to 'erase'/retcon the Dalton films that way.


    Also with the 006 thing resolved in GE Brosnan's Bond is much more easy-going in the next three films whereas he still seems to have a rough, colder edge in GE, but I'm pretty sure that's just because at least the first draft of Goldeneye was intended for Dalton and also Brosnan was settling into the role. Kind of like how Moore's first two films feel like they were meant for Connery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caj View Post
    Paranormal Activity 3...

    ...which finally explains why adult sisters Katie and Kristy had been haunted by a demon since childhood. This was almost as frightening as the first film and filled in the blanks from the first two films.
    I seem to remember it confusing me more than anything really.

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    I recently watched THE THING from 1951, 1982 and 2011 all in one go. I'd only seen the 1951 movie before. And yes, John Carpenter's 1981 film is the superior product, but watching the 2011 movie right after it, I thought it was pretty good. I've seen a lot of hate for the 2011 prequel online and while I agree that substituting computer effects for practical effects was unfortunate, I think most of the other arguments against the prequel are unwarranted. It not only ties in with the 1982 film, it also has echos of the 1951 movie.

    I found the 1951 picture quite annoying for a number of reasons and one character in particular. All three movies seem to elevate the grunts and put down the experienced scientists--don't trust the experienced scientists because they will destroy us all. You could say all three movies are anti-science. But the 2011 movie is more even-handed and it makes use of the situation suggested by the 1982 movie--such as the division between the two different language groups which leads to mistrust and misunderstanding. A prequel was virtually inevitable given the set-up at the beginning of the Carpenter movie.

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    I guess I am one of the few people who prefer the 1951 movie to the Carpenter film.
    There came a time when the Old Gods died! The Brave died with the Cunning! The Noble perished locked in battle with unleashed Evil! It was the last day for them! An ancient era was passing in fiery holocaust!

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    Star Trek: First Contact is a bit of a prequel too-kind of interesting that the guy who pretty much created this semi-utopian future is a hard-drinking, goofy-dancing guy who just wants to make a lot of money (although of course he starts to change as we see in TOS and his cameo in Enterprise).

    Also kind of deals with some of ST's backstory that the world was more or less post-apocalyptic before First contact (and possibly for a bit after-the "trial" scenes in Encounter At Farpoint take place a bit (or were intended to mimic) things that happened *after* First Contact)


    There's a bit of 'fanon' that Riker, Geordi, Troi and co. meeting with Cochrane and giving him knowledge of the future (as well as Lily's adventures on the Enterprise) altered the timeline enough to explain all the differences/more advanced tech than TOS in ENT/Discovery season 1 and 2/Strange New Worlds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisIII View Post
    There's a bit of 'fanon' that Riker, Geordi, Troi and co. meeting with Cochrane and giving him knowledge of the future (as well as Lily's adventures on the Enterprise) altered the timeline enough to explain all the differences/more advanced tech than TOS in ENT/Discovery season 1 and 2/Strange New Worlds.
    Never heard that before but sounds like The Beethoven's Symphony Paradox as explained by the 12th Doctor in regards to Cochrane.

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    Earlier drafts actually went further with that idea-Cochrane would have been dead or comatose and Picard would make the flight (Riker would be on the ship leading the Borg counter-assault).

    Although there was even a far goofier concept that would have had the Borg try to stop the Renaissance. Kind of wonder if that's how Voyager got the idea for "Concerning Flight" in which Janeway's holodeck simulation of Da Vinci (Played by John Rhys-Davies) is stolen by aliens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caj View Post
    Paranormal Activity 3...

    ...which finally explains why adult sisters Katie and Kristy had been haunted by a demon since childhood. This was almost as frightening as the first film and filled in the blanks from the first two films.
    I was not keen on the first film...Nothing really happened for 85 minutes. Sure a few jumpy things but that was pretty much it. I mean, I get the psychological aspect of it, but it didn't really grab me.

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    Should HAPPY DEATH DAY 2U be considered a prequel to HAPPY DEATH DAY? Whether it is or not, it's greater than the first movie.

    For that matter should BACK TO THE FUTURE PART III be considered a prequel to the original BACK TO THE FUTURE? The first and the third are my favourites for different reasons--the second while very inventive doesn't quite have the same happy feeling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Kelly View Post
    Should HAPPY DEATH DAY 2U be considered a prequel to HAPPY DEATH DAY? Whether it is or not, it's greater than the first movie.

    For that matter should BACK TO THE FUTURE PART III be considered a prequel to the original BACK TO THE FUTURE? The first and the third are my favourites for different reasons--the second while very inventive doesn't quite have the same happy feeling.
    Haven't watched the Death Day movies yet...I plan on doing so soon!

    As for BTTF 3...no. Time-travel movies, IMO, don't count as 'prequels' per se, though they may have prequel-ish elements. For instance, I don't count X-men Days of Future Past as a prequel...since its a movie about Wolverine on a time-travel mission to 1973 to change the history of the X-men. We even begin and end the narrative in the future, and our protagonist is 2023 Wolverine.

    But this is really a matter of perspective. I count 'Star Trek '09' as a kind of 'prequel' (well, technically its an alternate universe movie) since its told from the perspective of the past/alternate Enterprise crew, who then encounter time-travelers from the future, namely Spock Prime and Nero.

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    Casino Royale I think is in a bit of an odd place since I think the following films and expanded media for Craig's stuff implies that a version of some of his movie missions took place between QUANTUM OF SOLACE and SKYFALL....just probably not those involving SPECTRE.
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    The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly happens to be loosely a prequel, and it's the best goddamn movie ever made.

    Rogue One
    works wonderfully as a direct prequel to Star Wars Episode IV

    X-Men: First Class[/I] was pretty good. So was Days of Future Past which is both a sequel and prequel to the original X-Men trilogy.

    Predator retroactively became a prequel to Alien, and it's an awesome movie.

    1917 is vastly superior to 1941.


    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisIII View Post
    I've sort of had a kind of 'fanon' idea that Bond James "losing" 006 in 1986 in the pre-title sequence of Goldeneye explains why he's so salty in the Dalton films (Which take place 1987-1989).

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    You know what, I can buy it. It even fits in a meta way, since Brosnan was originally supposed to be orm Bond in 87.
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    Speaking of Predator, I thought PREY was pretty good (and of course kind of explains the gun from Predator 2, although not how it wound up back in the Predator's hands-a sequel might deal with it-it's implied that other Predators are about to show up, although whether they harm Naru and her tribe remains to be seen)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisIII View Post
    Speaking of Predator, I thought PREY was pretty good (and of course kind of explains the gun from Predator 2, although not how it wound up back in the Predator's hands-a sequel might deal with it-it's implied that other Predators are about to show up, although whether they harm Naru and her tribe remains to be seen)
    I'm stull not sure why either species even cares about this gun enough to hang onto it. She did use it in the fight with the Predator, but it's not what killed him.

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