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    Quote Originally Posted by Omnihallows View Post
    Returning everything to how it should be seems a little selfish to me, as if destiny were written in stone. Return to a world where Bruce Banner is persecuted has no control over his anger and is a cannibal, where mutants are hated, all the tragedies that Parker suffered, ultimatum wave, etc

    The important thing is not to try to rewind everything, but to learn to accept the changes and keep moving forward.
    That was Earth-1610 (the old Ultimate Universe). We don't know how Earth-6160 (the new Ultimate Universe) was supposed to be or if it was similar to Earth-1610 at all.

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    This feels like a retread of Hickman's Ultimates book, that he left partway through.

    The Maker and his Children, Hulk being involved in blowing up parts of America, Tony and Thor on the run.

    I don't exactly mind it, since I was interested in how the story would have played out if Hickman hadn't left. But, I was hoping for something much fresher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lefthanded View Post
    This feels like a retread of Hickman's Ultimates book, that he left partway through.

    The Maker and his Children, Hulk being involved in blowing up parts of America, Tony and Thor on the run.

    I don't exactly mind it, since I was interested in how the story would have played out if Hickman hadn't left. But, I was hoping for something much fresher.
    Noticed that too. Similar to Krakoa with his XMen which I also dug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimate Captain America View Post
    This universe is inferior to the original Ultimate one.
    Impossible, Hulk isn't threatening to eat or sexually assault anyone yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis-Ray View Post
    Impossible, Hulk isn't threatening to eat or sexually assault anyone yet
    Exactly. He's supposed to be a monster, not a scheming Bond villain attacking from his Ivory tower.

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    Really enjoyed the one shot. They’ve really painted my boy Tony into a corner. This all encompassing Illuminati is a true obstacle for the Ultimates to overcome. Loved what Tony did to Captain Britain. I didn’t think I would be glad that this was going to be different from the last Ultimate Universe, but Hickman has done it.
    "We live in a world of cowards. We live in a world full of small minds who are afraid. We are ruled by those who refuse to risk anything of their own. Who guard their over bloated paucities of power with money. With false reasoning. With measured hesitance. With prideful, recalcitrant inaction. With hateful invective. With weapons. F@#K these selfish fools and their prevailing world order." Tony Stark

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimate Captain America View Post
    Exactly. He's supposed to be a monster, not a scheming Bond villain attacking from his Ivory tower.
    Having experianced original Ultimate Hulk, the latter feels like an improvement honestly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis-Ray View Post
    Having experianced original Ultimate Hulk, the latter feels like an improvement honestly.
    A thousand times yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis-Ray View Post
    Having experianced original Ultimate Hulk, the latter feels like an improvement honestly.
    It goes back to those two groups that always occur when Hulk is involved. I remembered how Hulk fanbases hated smart hulk in the MCU and wanted to go back to Edward Norton and Whedon Hulk. To a certain extent, I do wish we could see more savage hulk. It's a new universe, why not try something new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimate Captain America View Post
    This universe is inferior to the original Ultimate one.
    Until I see this incarnation of Ultimate Wolverine, I cannot yet make that determination.
    “Not as good as I once was… but I’m as good, once, as I ever was.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantis-Ray View Post
    Having experianced original Ultimate Hulk, the latter feels like an improvement honestly.
    I get the idea behind the original Ultimate Hulk. It's all the repressed aspects of Banner's personality, so you imagine this frustrated, emasculated, timid vegetarian having all of this pent up stuff manifesting physically into this creature and that depiction makes a lot of sense.

    I think for most people, the idea of all of their darkest, most hidden and repressed aspects coming to the surface in an uncontrollable, impossibly strong being would be utterly horrifying and disturbing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Refrax5 View Post
    I get the idea behind the original Ultimate Hulk. It's all the repressed aspects of Banner's personality, so you imagine this frustrated, emasculated, timid vegetarian having all of this pent up stuff manifesting physically into this creature and that depiction makes a lot of sense.

    I think for most people, the idea of all of their darkest, most hidden and repressed aspects coming to the surface in an uncontrollable, impossibly strong being would be utterly horrifying and disturbing.
    Millar was just very crass about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Millar was just very crass about it.
    Oh, no argument there. I enjoyed the Ultimates quite a bit, but Millar is certainly NOT one of my favorite writers. I just mean that I think the idea is sound, even if the execution was tacky.

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    I enjoyed it but was surprised that the Invasion mini had actually ended. Feels like nothing was quite wrapped up.

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