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    Default why actor duo reteams or actor director reteams take so long or never happen?

    Take Interview with the Vampire for example. Tom Cruise Brad Pitt. Movie was a monster hit demanding sequels and the two never appeared as vampires again. You would think studios would have been chomping on the big late 90s early 200s for a reteam but never happened. They were also rumored for Go Like Hell which eventually became Ford v. Ferrari with Matt Damon/Christian Slater.

    Robert De Niro and Scorsese by 1995 had done 8 movies together and had a long standing working relationship. Yet they didn't work together till 2019 a 24 year gap.

    I'm sure there's other examples but why does it take forever for these actor/actor actor/director combos to get off the ground. The press releases always say "scheduling conflicts" but I'm like how busy can they be being on big boats with models? Basically momentum is lost by the time lapse. A movie like the irishman should have happened in the 90s with the three main principals at their peak not decades later when they're in their late 70s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CTTT View Post
    Take Interview with the Vampire for example. Tom Cruise Brad Pitt. Movie was a monster hit demanding sequels and the two never appeared as vampires again. You would think studios would have been chomping on the big late 90s early 200s for a reteam but never happened. They were also rumored for Go Like Hell which eventually became Ford v. Ferrari with Matt Damon/Christian Slater.
    Christian Bale. And this isn't a good example: Cruise and Pitt's relationship is...complicated. So that might be it for those two. Best we can hope for is that they laugh about it over beers or something one day. Speaking of...

    Robert De Niro and Scorsese by 1995 had done 8 movies together and had a long standing working relationship. Yet they didn't work together till 2019 a 24 year gap.

    I'm sure there's other examples but why does it take forever for these actor/actor actor/director combos to get off the ground. The press releases always say "scheduling conflicts" but I'm like how busy can they be being on big boats with models? Basically momentum is lost by the time lapse. A movie like the irishman should have happened in the 90s with the three main principals at their peak not decades later when they're in their late 70s.
    As consumers we all have favorite pairings we want to see again and again...from their perspective though they either don't want to or figure they don't need to do a movie to hang out with their buddy. De Niro and Scorsese have been friends since they were 16 years old, I'm sure doing a movie together is fun but not necessary at this point, for either party. We may have noticed the 24 year gap but they probably see each other in real life with some frequency, including during that gap.

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    You are talking about people. Real people with real lives. The answer could be as simple as they didn’t want to or be more complicated. Even when you want to do things life often gets in the way.

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    As mentioned, sometimes the behind the scenes working relationships aren't quite as harmonious.

    Indiana Jones 4 took so long because they really couldn't agree on alien angle and Lucas was very, very stubborn on it.

    .There can also be legal issues surrounding the characters. James Bond, for example, had to deal with several. This resulted in the film Never Say Never Again and the 90's 6 year delay. Problems with MGM also delayed the third Daniel Craig film.
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    Just because the movie worked doesn't mean the actors enjoyed working together. And stars have multiple projects going at the same time, most don't come through for many reasons. Two stars might want to work together, but they need to find the movie they both like, with roles they both like, AND both have the same time available in their schedule.
    Newman and Redford were close friends, yet they only made two movies.
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    Speaking of the Bond movies. From 1962-89 we got a Bond movie every 2 years. Six year delay due to MGM financial woes but then we got a Bond movie in 95 and 97. First three year wait till 2002 after The World is Not Enough. Now the Bond movies are taking 5 or 6 years to come out? Why so slow?

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    Brad Pitt wanted to walk out during the shoot bc of how miserable the experience was he only reconsidered after, i think, his manager talked him out of it.
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    Even if everyone's okay working together, schedules are busy and each movie isn't always going to include the right role for a particular actor.

    Franchises also complicate matters, since anyone in those films is particularly limited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CTTT View Post
    Speaking of the Bond movies. From 1962-89 we got a Bond movie every 2 years. Six year delay due to MGM financial woes but then we got a Bond movie in 95 and 97. First three year wait till 2002 after The World is Not Enough. Now the Bond movies are taking 5 or 6 years to come out? Why so slow?
    MGM has had financial difficulties for a long time and I think that's part of what took Skyfall a bit longer to come out. There was even an Entertainment Weekly cover that said "Goodbye, Mr. Bond" when the third film was slightly in doubt.

    As for No Time To Die, there's a few reasons:

    -Daniel Craig was reluctant to commit to a fourth film in part because Spectre's filming had been painful and kept him away from Rachel Weisz and their family.

    -The first director, Danny Boyle, was removed before filming began.

    -Bad fires on set delayed production.

    -It was set to go in March 2020 but then Coronavirus hit delaying it several times until it wound up in Fall 2021.



    As for the current delay, they wanted 2022 although it was an anniversary to be kind of a break year and mainly just produced the sound of 007 concert and documentary events.

    Craig's version of Bond was also killed off in the last movie so they pretty much have to start from scratch. While the earlier films only had a loose continuity (and even Craig's run didn't entirely distance itself-Judi Dench's M for example)-they seem to intend to do a full reboot.
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    As stated, these are real people with their own lives. Maybe if their main priority in life was teaming up again it'd be one thing, but even if it was a good relationship they likely have other priorities. I'm sure there was also some desire to find great projects rather than just do any old thing, and those aren't so easy to come across.

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    The duo of Gene Wilder and Richard Pryor didn't happen until the 1976 film "Silver Streak", at the peak of both men's acting careers. They only made three other movies. It is understandable they would no longer make any more movies together after their last film flopped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zauriel View Post
    The duo of Gene Wilder and Richard Pryor didn't happen until the 1976 film "Silver Streak", at the peak of both men's acting careers. They only made three other movies. It is understandable they would no longer make any more movies together after their last film flopped.
    While their last movie was not a hit, the one before that was. It was not the reason they stopped making movies together. It was the last movie Pryor made because his MS became to severe for him to work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zauriel View Post
    The duo of Gene Wilder and Richard Pryor didn't happen until the 1976 film "Silver Streak", at the peak of both men's acting careers. They only made three other movies. It is understandable they would no longer make any more movies together after their last film flopped.
    I keep waiting for Wesley Snipes and Woody Harrelson to re-team on something... ("Old Men Can't Jump?" "Money Plane?" ... Natural Born Bl4de Killer?")

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