New Illuminati lineup Spoiler Thanos #1

[Tony Stark]

Is that so? Has James been detained ever since then?

Yeah. She-Hulk is trying to get him out currently.

[Mantis-Ray]

I'm gonna speculate that Roberta may be an amnesiac Black Swan.

[Micabe]

Yeah. She-Hulk is trying to get him out currently.

Well, damn I am behind... Might you have a title and issue number I can reference to catch up with been going on with Rhodes?

[Frontier]

Emma Frost with "I'm the token girl and I'm owning it" vibe.

[king of hybrids]

Emma Frost with "I'm the token girl and I'm owning it" vibe.

I mean, unironic girlboss is one of her things

Ewings going to have to devote so much time to fixing Adam after this, considering how much Adam hates secret cabals and despises Tony and Reed.

[dkrook]

Blue Marvel looking very much like the kid who only joined the school soccer team because his parents made him.

Marvel editorial, please give him a new costume. And please tell your writers to stop penning him like he's Reed's mentee and understudy.

If Cantwell's previous handling of Blue Marvel is any indication you might not want him to to stay long enough to get a new costume, lol. Me I'm sitting back and laughing at the tried and true one for one quota swap. Things change, but things also stay the same.

[Sutekh]

Looking at the lineup I'm stumped as to what Emma Frost being there brings to the party besides two copious handfuls of medical-grade silicone.

She did used to able to refine and use functioning psi-tech, like the mind-switch mechanism she used to hijack Storm's body and powers, which makes her at least as qualified to be in the same room with Tony, Adam and Reed as Dr. Strange.

But that was a minute ago, and most people who see Emma see the stuff she pushes forward for them to notice, and ignore the more dangerous stuff above and behind.

[Ultimate Captain America]

The thing with the Illuminati is that they were not meant to be simply just another superhero group, but a secret cabal of superheroes with great influence and clout. Kings like Namor and Black Bolt, leaders on their fields like Stark, Richards, and Strange, and so on. Xavier was not there as the token mutant, he was there as the leader of the mutant community.

Emma Frost and Blue Marvel may be fine as characters in general, but being here is way above their pay grade. If they wanted to have a woman in there to fill some representation quota, it could have been Madelyne Pryor, the queen of hell. And for someone black, Nick Fury would be right at home in a secret cabal like this.

[Factor]

Looking at the lineup I'm stumped as to what Emma Frost being there brings to the party besides two copious handfuls of medical-grade silicone.

That's pretty misogynistic. She's shown to have a genius intellect and has a very strategical mind. Plus she's one of the MU's top telepaths and she's obviously there to represent mutants, because they always have at least one in the group. To mention her breasts as her biggest contributions says more about you than about how she has been presented.

[Factor]

The thing with the Illuminati is that they were not meant to be simply just another superhero group, but a secret cabal of superheroes with great influence and clout. Kings like Namor and Black Bolt, leaders on their fields like Stark, Richards, and Strange, and so on. Xavier was not there as the token mutant, he was there as the leader of the mutant community.

Emma Frost and Blue Marvel may be fine as characters in general, but being here is way above their pay grade. If they wanted to have a woman in there to fill some representation quota, it could have been Madelyne Pryor, the queen of hell. And for someone black, Nick Fury would be right at home in a secret cabal like this.

I mean, Emma was basically running Krakoa. She is one of the most influential characters around. She may not be the regent of a nation, but she has way more sway than Madelyne, who could lose her position any minute.
Blue Marvel I agree with. He really does not have particular influence over a unique corner of the MU like the others tend to have. I'd take him as a replacement of Reed, but with Mr. Fantastic available, he's just a genius who sadly doesn't have a big role at all.

[Ultimate Captain America]

"Emma was basically running Krakoa"

Key word: was.

[Frontier]

I mean, Emma was basically running Krakoa. She is one of the most influential characters around. She may not be the regent of a nation, but she has way more sway than Madelyne, who could lose her position any minute.
Blue Marvel I agree with. He really does not have particular influence over a unique corner of the MU like the others tend to have. I'd take him as a replacement of Reed, but with Mr. Fantastic available, he's just a genius who sadly doesn't have a big role at all.

Also Blue Marvel is supposed to hate Illuminatti organizations.

[Factor]

"Emma was basically running Krakoa"

Key word: was.

That's beside the point. I don't see you complaining about Tony's inclusion, but he's also not in the best position right now.
They're both characters guaranteed to have strong roles in their respective franchises, so that's why they're included. Not because of whatever is happening to them this month.

[Thor-Ul]

Also Blue Marvel is supposed to hate Illuminatti organizations.

But the Ultimates, didn't they operated in secret?

[Alan2099]

The Illuminatti is a concept that I really wish they would just let go. All it does is make whoever is involved in it look worse and mess up things for everybody else.