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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuck View Post
    Most pro pencilers can draw about a page per day. Working more-or-less full-time hours, if not longer. You still need inks, colors, letters, editing, etc.

    And you still have to allow time for the writers. Even someone like Bendis, who just cranks out work, still needs time to work.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    Amazing Spider-Man Volume 2 #36, the September 11 issue, probably represents the fastest a modern comic could be made.

    It was a response to September 11 published on November 14.

    That was with a fast artist and a script delivered very quickly.

    It's telling that we don't see comics made that quickly, even if it would obviously be beneficial on occasion to have something timely.

    It usually takes longer.

    Three months seems standard.

    A company doesn't want to sit on material too long. It might seem out of date, and obviously they don't make the money back until the story is published.

    If material is made too far in advance, it would take a while to respond to fan demand.

    So if a new character is a hit, like Bailey the Spider-boy, Marvel wants to be able to follow it up.

    And if something is a flop they want to change direction, which is harder if they've had 11 issues commissioned after the publication of a new development that tanks sales.
    I know modern comics are that way, and why. What I am wondering about is Golden/Silver Age comics. Did they also take three months to produce?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Taylor View Post
    I know modern comics are that way, and why. What I am wondering about is Golden/Silver Age comics. Did they also take three months to produce?
    Probably, but there are some caveats.

    They weren't worried about being timely, so companies often had fill-in inventory stories. They would also have reprints every now and then.

    Communication was slower. Someone can work relatively quickly in the Marvel offices, but issues would be plotted over phone and things would have to get mailed.

    It also took a long time to get sales data, and to determine what worked and what didn't. This is why Amazing Fantasy #15 was published August 1962, while published over half a year later March 1963.

    Famously, Marvel didn't know that Neal Adams had turned the X-Men into a hit until they already decided to stop telling new stories with the X-Men.

    Artists were generally faster, although part of it is that printing wasn't strong enough to convey the details of a Geof Darrow or Brian Bolland. We may be going back to an era of faster artists since so much of modern comics is dependent on colorists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Taylor View Post
    I know modern comics are that way, and why. What I am wondering about is Golden/Silver Age comics. Did they also take three months to produce?
    Back then how many artist got up and actually went to work in the same building as the editorial staff versus being at home and talking on the phone?

    How far advance was some of that done?

    How many ghost artist and writers were there back then to fix something to get produced on time?

    Also how many of those creators had more than one job?

    It's easy to pop out stuff when that is all you do for a living.

    Some folks now have multiple jobs.

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    Some DC artists in the past used to draw nothing in Backgrounds to make deadlines.

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    Two good ways to detect when an angry fan online is spreading complete BS about a creator or someone on editorial:

    1. They post something like "Remember when (name of creator or editor) said this?" And then the poster goes on to paraphrase what (name of creator or editor) said from memory instead of linking to an ACTUAL quote or showing a screencap of the ACTUAL quote.

    2. They show a screencap of a quote, but it's clearly a quote from PART of a thread-- or it's a portion of a quote-- instead of the ACTUAL quote presented in its original context.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Slott View Post
    Two good ways to detect when an angry fan online is spreading complete BS about a creator or someone on editorial:

    1. They post something like "Remember when (name of creator or editor) said this?" And then the poster goes on to paraphrase what (name of creator or editor) said from memory instead of linking to an ACTUAL quote or showing a screencap of the ACTUAL quote.

    2. They show a screencap of a quote, but it's clearly a quote from PART of a thread-- or it's a portion of a quote-- instead of the ACTUAL quote presented in its original context.
    Is this in regards to something specific, or a general *gestures broadly* statement?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garlador View Post
    Is this in regards to something specific, or a general *gestures broadly* statement?
    Yeah is this something happening on the a social media forum outside of this or an unrelated matter that requires a discussion of the topic of in regards to the current Spider-Man comic or it's associated affiliates and\or media presence in regards to his and or cast members in such things as merchandising, tv, video games or something else that can be used in the topic of public relations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Slott View Post
    Two good ways to detect when an angry fan online is spreading complete BS about a creator or someone on editorial:

    1. They post something like "Remember when (name of creator or editor) said this?" And then the poster goes on to paraphrase what (name of creator or editor) said from memory instead of linking to an ACTUAL quote or showing a screencap of the ACTUAL quote.

    2. They show a screencap of a quote, but it's clearly a quote from PART of a thread-- or it's a portion of a quote-- instead of the ACTUAL quote presented in its original context.
    So then, how does one cite quotes when discussing creative talent's opinions on the IP when assessing things?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WebLurker View Post
    So then, how does one cite quotes when discussing creative talent's opinions on the IP when assessing things?
    just link the article
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    Somehow it's incredibly controversial to point out that someone who regularly posts-- many times a day-- where they paraphrase comic book creators and editors, and/or just make stuff up whole cloth because of how they think those comic book creators and editors feel-- would be a lot more believable if they linked to actual quotes and/or provided screen shots of those exact quotes.

    It's almost like the people defending posters who make unsourced posts like that are full of it.

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    I don’t see the point in getting worked up over people making up stuff on the internet. It happens constantly, so it’s better to just ignore it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurus View Post
    I don’t see the point in getting worked up over people making up stuff on the internet. It happens constantly, so it’s better to just ignore it.
    Unless you have had to deal with situations in which people speak untruths about you on the internet, it would not be expected that one would see the point in getting worked up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wleakr View Post
    Unless you have had to deal with situations in which people speak untruths about you on the internet, it would not be expected that one would see the point in getting worked up.
    I imagine it would be incredibly frustrating but I can't help but wonder if bringing them up without the ability to snuff them would just bring more eyes to the situation, sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wleakr View Post
    Unless you have had to deal with situations in which people speak untruths about you on the internet, it would not be expected that one would see the point in getting worked up.
    The untruths could also affect your personal reputation and what things you get invited to.

    A convention manager might think a lie online is true, and decide that a creator won't get invited to something interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mets View Post
    The untruths could also affect your personal reputation and what things you get invited to.

    A convention manager might think a lie online is true, and decide that a creator won't get invited to something interesting.
    Also it being online and probably a vey small or 2-5 amount of people. Surely it's much easier to block these people an you don't see what they are saying or filter out anyone that would actively communicate what these people or minor groups are saying. Unless one is actively looking out for such comments. The Internet is vast and much easier to block and excommunicate those who would cause angst to ones life. It's better to ignore and not complain about things that can be easily avoided

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