Originally Posted by
Hakka84
This post has got me so, so irked, I can't help. I know it would be better if I moved on and pretended to not read it, but I can't.
Starting by saying that anyone's entitled to their opinion on the X-Future, I would go without insulting one character (and, consequently, their fans).
I think such a "happy" ending works on theory, but on paper it wouldn't, especially on the long run. X-Men without completely removing the Sentinels and hatred aren't X-Men, they are just another group of superpowered characters. Aren't there enough in the MU (not to mention comics world?). Would there be enough "new ideas" to properly write these groups as well?
Also. With the unique way in which mutation works, in-world anyone will always campaign and rally against them, and will always search for a way to erase the X-gene, or prevent mutants from get born, or discriminate them for security reasons.
I agree that, after Orchis is defeated and exposed, we should get a period in which there pendulum swings the other side, meaning Mutants suddenly considered heroes and "saints", treated as such (I think it's what happens in our world as well). But with time things would settle, and eventually the issue would start to return. Also, I see it quite unethical the whole "mindread the whole planet". "Flatscans" would never accept this: we've seen in real life that, under the proper stimulus/fear, people are willing accept any limitation to their freedom governments throw their way, but this, invasion of the mind? Who would reassure them their minds aren't tempered with? There would be such a backlash that the golden age of peace and love wouldn't even start. IMHO.
Anyway. It's this
that had me turn green in Hulk-way.
Of course anyone's entitled to their opinion but I see some wrong takes on some characters, two of which are actually an insult to the fans of the characters.
Angel. Is one of those who became superhero on his own and was always interested in doing it. Also, he would never be an actor or something. He's not extrovert, since X-Factor times, he would never do a job like that. If he really retired, and he wouldn't, he would move to pro-bono and humanitarian roles, backed up by his money. Also, why should he move to Los Angeles, when Worthington Enterprises (his second job) is in New York?
I agree that he could return to (safer/easier) street-level heroics, but he likes to be part of a team.
He did live through tragedies in the span of 10/15 years (parents + Candy killed, Hodge who betrayed him, amputation, Archangel, wings amputation again, Ascension+reset, two breaks up with soulmate Betsy) so he would definitely need psychological help, but I don't see him leave the X-Men behind - they're part of his life and the only family he has.
Also, as a fan, and since this very adjective was basically thrown around by X-Office in us fans' face, I take it hard the whole "is useless". Especially "even with Archangel's power". Seriously? Have you read Uncanny X-Force?! Where he basically was the flying version of Wolverine? (and, mind me, I'm not speaking about his Ascended/Apocalypse version, but pre-Dark Angel Saga, Archangel).
I'm getting tired of this whole "Angel is useless" spiel.
I might agree that power-wise he falls on the bottom of today X-Men's roster, but I can't see why you treat him like a useless character that needs to be retired, while other characters (that should've never had any place in Avengers in the first place) are happily assigned to Avengers duty. He's Sam Wilson but with natural wings, and also a better flyer and better fighter in air and also has other assets (bird abilities Sam doesn't). This without letting Archangel out to play. Thank you.
(no offense to Sam's fans. I read his Axis-related content and I liked it).
Iceman. Bobby is very dependant on his X-Men family. He could move to Asgard for some adventure but he would never stay away too much. He eventually always reverts back to the X-Men.
Beast. To wish Hank to turn full-villain is an insult to anyone who ever liked Hank since 1963 up to 2018. Do not let Mungho read you.
I only agree on Colossus. He has tried to retire more than once and often expressed the wish to live a quiet life, if I'm not wrong. After everything it happened to him, it would make sense for him to retire (at least for a bit).
Sorry if I come out excessively snappy. But, seriously, as Warren fan, I can't further accept that a portion of the X-Fans think Warren useless. It's because of vocal fans who says so, that X-Office believe there's no interest in Warren and can either be used as ridiculous damsel in distress (last year's X-Force) or pretty much forgotten even when he should be involved (Children of the Atom). Or used as a drone prop and one of the only, if not the only, A+B-list mutant truly dead during Fall of X.
Instead of advocating for putting a limit to how the powers keep growing, so much that anyone who isn't Omega (or Wolverine) are becoming useless, or build an X-line that can juggle Omegas as well as street-level mutants, we call those who aren't powerhouses just useless and move on. Great.