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    Quote Originally Posted by JudicatorPrime View Post
    Franklin not being a mutant is a travesty.
    One would think that if Franklin was powerful enough (cosmically) to alter every cell in his body to fool everyone and their momma including mutant-hunting Sentinels in a possible future into thinking he was a mutant to the point that they chased him into the past a'la Rachel that there'd be no question as to his genome status, right? I mean think about it... Currently, we are entertaining the idea that Mystique is capable of altering her biology on a genetic level to the point that she is capable of alternating her very makeup from XX to XY because she's a mutant shapeshifter; then for Xavier to spout all that BS about Cerebro's findings about Franklin is simply crappy off the cuff writing especially after all the effort the X-Men went thru to get Franklin to Krakoa in the first place. It all comes off as if the X-Men scanned Franklin at the last moment only because they needed his powers and then collectively said, "F&@%!" when they got the latest results

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    Quote Originally Posted by leokearon View Post
    Squirrel Girl was later retconned to not being a mutant in her own book. So she might get retconned back to being a mutant.
    Of course, it won't work. If Squirrel Girl isn't a mutant. Then, how they are going to explain her power and obtain her tail. Her parents must be drinking something radioactive or get struck by certain chemicals for animal use. Idk how it would work if she doesn't have X-genes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAWtoyoto 432 View Post
    Of course, it won't work. If Squirrel Girl isn't a mutant. Then, how they are going to explain her power and obtain her tail. Her parents must be drinking something radioactive or get struck by certain chemicals for animal use. Idk how it would work if she doesn't have X-genes.
    High Evolutionary?

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    The Franklin one was severe pettiness to prevent other writers from using the character.
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    "Severe Pettiness!" -- I can dig it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panic View Post
    High Evolutionary?
    That was my first thought as well. In theory, there should be quite a few Ani-Men running around the MU.

    If not H.E. to credit, then maybe she's part alien (e.g., Mephitisoid like Hepzibah)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triniking1234 View Post
    The Franklin one was severe pettiness to prevent other writers from using the character.
    That would have to be something that editorial establishes and maintains -- who gets to use which characters and how. Otherwise, nothing would stop writers from one title from using a character from another title...or even an alternate or time-displaced version of the same character. Pettiness would only be a temporary speed bump, easily retconned or explained away by subsequent writers. And I think it's very likely that a future writer will make Franklin a mutant again, unless Marvel Editorial intervenes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micabe View Post
    "Severe Pettiness!" -- I can dig it
    Coming from Slott, this is the (extremely probable) correct answer :P

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    Let's go with Doctor Doom being a mutant. He has the superhuman mutant ability to absorb vast amounts of information and data, but unfortunately, his analytical abilities are more or less just "normal peak human" range and can't keep pace with the information that he has on demand, which ultimately leads to predictable failures downstream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudicatorPrime View Post
    Let's go with Doctor Doom being a mutant. He has the superhuman mutant ability to absorb vast amounts of information and data, but unfortunately, his analytical abilities are more or less just "normal peak human" range and can't keep pace with the information that he has on demand, which ultimately leads to predictable failures downstream.
    I could get behind this just because it would make more sense than the idea that there's nothing "extraordinary" about his cerebral faculties. it also neatly explains his far less antagonistic relationship with the mutants over time. some of them have gotten swept up in his schemes yes, but he's never really overtly targeted them. would make perfect sense if that's why: he's been one of them all along, but playing his card close to his vest as always, he's never openly revealed himself as such. he would surely have the ability to incorporate tech to his armour that would cloak him from Cerebra once he knew about it's existence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aarkus View Post
    I could get behind this just because it would make more sense than the idea that there's nothing "extraordinary" about his cerebral faculties. it also neatly explains his far less antagonistic relationship with the mutants over time. some of them have gotten swept up in his schemes yes, but he's never really overtly targeted them. would make perfect sense if that's why: he's been one of them all along, but playing his card close to his vest as always, he's never openly revealed himself as such. he would surely have the ability to incorporate tech to his armour that would cloak him from Cerebra once he knew about it's existence.
    Well, one thing about Doom has never been explained: How does he know how to induce physiological changes in others? Like with Volcana and Titania..... He intentionally created their powers. it wasn't a fluke.... how?

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    Hmm, you mean like Ultimate Hank Pym? In 616, Hank gave Janet her powers, but in 1610 it was the other way around, Hank got his powers from a mutant Janet Van Dyne. Did Doom do the same thing when empowering Titania and Volcana, use mutant genetics to grant them powers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by marhawkman View Post
    Well, one thing about Doom has never been explained: How does he know how to induce physiological changes in others? Like with Volcana and Titania..... He intentionally created their powers. it wasn't a fluke.... how?
    He's a genius.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marhawkman View Post
    Well, one thing about Doom has never been explained: How does he know how to induce physiological changes in others? Like with Volcana and Titania..... He intentionally created their powers. it wasn't a fluke.... how?
    Doom has been trying to give himself powers for years. It stands to reason that either he has experimented on others before, or he has read at length some of the papers of other great scientists like the Enclave and the High Evolutionary, who have either created powerful beings, or turned themselves into very powerful beings through scientific means.

    Let's not forget that Doom has created other superhuman beings, including Darkoth the Death Demon through a combination of mysticism and science. And then there's also Victorious, who, if memory serves, got her powers by virtue of the Power Cosmic experimentations that Doom performed on Silver Surfer and Terrax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudicatorPrime View Post
    Doom has been trying to give himself powers for years. It stands to reason that either he has experimented on others before, or he has read at length some of the papers of other great scientists like the Enclave and the High Evolutionary, who have either created powerful beings, or turned themselves into very powerful beings through scientific means.

    Let's not forget that Doom has created other superhuman beings, including Darkoth the Death Demon through a combination of mysticism and science. And then there's also Victorious, who, if memory serves, got her powers by virtue of the Power Cosmic experimentations that Doom performed on Silver Surfer and Terrax.
    Didn’t Doom create a clone of himself with all the FF’s powers? It was a long time ago, but I think he did.

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