All purpose news and politics thread part VII: News & Politics Total Landscaping

[Zelena]

We just going to legalize both of them in an attempt to keep religion out of our government?

Keeping religion out of the government has been more or less France’s position on the subject since the Revolution…

[thwhtGuardian]

Serious question...

Exactly how far are you planning on taking that?

"You Shall Not Murder..."/"You Shall Not Steal..." are both right there in The Ten Commandments.

We just going to legalize both of them in an attempt to keep religion out of our government?

You don't need religion to think think that stealing and murdering are bad. The idea that religion has the morality market cornered is a strange myth.

It's like quote from Penn Jilllete of Penn and teller fame, "The question I get asked by religious people all the time is, without God, what’s to stop me from raping all I want? What Stops me from murdering people? And my answer is: I do rape all I want. And the amount I want is zero. And I do murder all I want, and the amount I want is zero. The fact that these people think that if they didn’t have this person watching over them that they would go on killing, raping rampages is the most self-damning thing I can imagine."

[Catlady in training]

Bad news from Slovakia,where Peter Pellegrini beat the more pro-west, anti-Putin candidate Ivan Korcok in presidential elections. Pellegrini is one of the "UKraine needs to make concessions and we can't keep giving weapons to them" folks.

God how I hate this hellhole. We're basically a smaller Orbanistan by now.

[Kirby101]

Serious question...

Exactly how far are you planning on taking that?

"You Shall Not Murder..."/"You Shall Not Steal..." are both right there in The Ten Commandments.

We just going to legalize both of them in an attempt to keep religion out of our government?

Read about the Code of Hamarabi and get back to us.

[Zelena]

It's like quote from Penn Jilllete of Penn and teller fame, "The question I get asked by religious people all the time is, without God, what’s to stop me from raping all I want? What Stops me from murdering people? And my answer is: I do rape all I want. And the amount I want is zero. And I do murder all I want, and the amount I want is zero. The fact that these people think that if they didn’t have this person watching over them that they would go on killing, raping rampages is the most self-damning thing I can imagine."

I had a catholic education and I remember asking a priest once: “If you are a nice person all your life and be kind and generous to the others but you don’t believe in God, are you going to paradise?”

He thought a moment and said: “Yes, but it’s a pity.”

[Gray Lensman]

I had a catholic education and I remember asking a priest once: “If you are a nice person all your life and be kind and generous to the others but you don’t believe in God, are you going to paradise?”

He thought a moment and said: “Yes, but it’s a pity.”

I was always taught it's possible, but don't count on it.

[Kirby101]

I had a catholic education and I remember asking a priest once: “If you are a nice person all your life and be kind and generous to the others but you don’t believe in God, are you going to paradise?”

He thought a moment and said: “Yes, but it’s a pity.”

I don't see why? You would obviously then believe in God for thr rest of eternity. What does a few decades matter to a being who has been around at least 15 billion years?

[Adam Allen]

I don't see why? You would obviously then believe in God for thr rest of eternity. What does a few decades matter to a being who has been around at least 15 billion years?

Ah, but by this rationale, how is eternal damnation ever possibly justified? However long you lived on earth as the most evil person alive, how would those decades balance against billions of years of torment?

Eternal Hell is obviously the worst threat ever, but it only makes sense in an unjust universe.

[Tuck]

Because God can't look upon sin. (How you square this with omnipotence I don't know. But contradictions abound in religion.)

[Kirby101]

Ah, but by this rationale, how is eternal damnation ever possibly justified? However long you lived on earth as the most evil person alive, how would those decades balance against billions of years of torment?

Eternal Hell is obviously the worst threat ever, but it only makes sense in an unjust universe.

The Epicurus quote is ever relevant.

[Tendrin]

Serious question...

Exactly how far are you planning on taking that?

"You Shall Not Murder..."/"You Shall Not Steal..." are both right there in The Ten Commandments.

We just going to legalize both of them in an attempt to keep religion out of our government?

Are you kidding me.

[Kirby101]

Are you kidding me.

He said it's a "serious question "

[CaptainEurope]

He said it's a "serious question "

I agree that it's looking very serious.

[Tami]

I agree that it's looking very serious.

One man's serious is another man's Not-serious.

[Malvolio]

Serious question...

Exactly how far are you planning on taking that?

"You Shall Not Murder..."/"You Shall Not Steal..." are both right there in The Ten Commandments.

We just going to legalize both of them in an attempt to keep religion out of our government?

We don't make theft and murder crimes because the Bible says so. We make them crimes because theft deprives another person of their property and murder deprives another person of their life. Amazing that I have to explain that.