All purpose news and politics thread part VII: News & Politics Total Landscaping

[WestPhillyPunisher]

There could be a simpler explanation. Putin's critics abroad make news 2 times- they get mentioned briefly when they have public speaking engagements, but then fall back into relative obscurity until the next engagement. And they make news when Putin sends his hitmen to kill them, and they either succeed- in which case, it's a part of the news cycle for a few days before it disappears; or the victim survives, in which case it's part of the news cycle for slightly longer before it disappears (until the next assassination attempt).

By returning to Russia and being jailed, Navalney was always perpetually in the news. That also meant his message was in the news as well.

Maybe he hoped by doing that, it would inspire the people to rise up. Maybe he thought he could pull a Mandela, stay in jail for a decade or more, and when Putin was gone, he'd get out and be able to run for President in a legitimate election.

If Navalny believed that, then, I’m sad to say he was terminally naive. Apartheid leaders weren’t about to make Mandela a martyr by killing him, Putin, on the other hand, doesn’t give a damn. Like Stalin and Lenin before him, Vlad has zero problem putting his enemies six feet under, to hell what the rest of the world thinks.

[AnakinFlair]

Judgement for the Trump fraud case in New York has just come in. Tump's being ordered to pay $364 MILLION.

[Gray Lensman]

Judgement for the Trump fraud case in New York has just come in. Tump's being ordered to pay $364 MILLION.

So at the upper end of what was expected then. Add that to 83 million, that means he is 447 million poorer, and all that comes out of cash. The RNC might be able to pay his legal fees, but I don't think they can pay his judgements.

[Dalak]

So at the upper end of what was expected then. Add that to 83 million, that means he is 447 million poorer, and all that comes out of cash. The RNC might be able to pay his legal fees, but I don't think they can pay his judgements.

We'll see how much he can get out of PACs & Donations from MAGA.

[Kirby101]

He is also banned from doing business in NY for 3 years and his sons for 2 years.

[kidfresh512]

If upheld on appeal, it could erase the cushion of liquidity — cash, stocks and bonds — that Mr. Trump built in his post-presidential life. Mr. Trump claimed under oath last year that he was sitting on more than $400 million in cash, but between Justice Engoron’s $355 million punishment and the $83.3 million payout to Ms. Carroll, that might all be gone. If so, Mr. Trump might have to sell one of his properties or another asset to cover the payouts, in what would be a remarkable blow to the former president.

Oh well he can get his daughter in law installed at the RNC and make sure all the money they weren't able to siphon before gets to his "campaign" . Good take it all and leave none to fund rases across the country.

[JCAll]

So at the upper end of what was expected then. Add that to 83 million, that means he is 447 million poorer, and all that comes out of cash. The RNC might be able to pay his legal fees, but I don't think they can pay his judgements.

I wonder if he will ever pay any of that though.

[kidfresh512]

I wonder if he will ever pay any of that though.

Mr. Trump will appeal the financial penalty — which could climb to $400 million or more once interest is added — but will have to either come up with the money or secure a bond within 30 days. The ruling will not render him bankrupt, because most of his wealth is tied up in real estate.

So he can appeal. But he has to get a bond for the money. And most legal experts I have seen have said they think the case for fraud was so good not sure what appeal he can get.

[Username taken]

The amount of appeals that Trump is going to file is going to take a huge financial toll on him.

Never mind the amount in damages he's been ordered to pay.

[Gray Lensman]

So he can appeal. But he has to get a bond for the money. And most legal experts I have seen have said they think the case for fraud was so good not sure what appeal he can get.

And even if he can, who is going to be willing to front that kind of money for what seems to be a surefire loss? As some of the property he owns is in NY, they might be able to seize it and auction it off for the judgement if he balks at paying.

[Gray Lensman]

And even if he can, who is going to be willing to front that kind of money for what seems to be a surefire loss? As some of the property he owns is in NY, they might be able to seize it and auction it off for the judgement if he balks at paying.

I'm gonna quote myself because the judgement is even worse than I first thought. Trump is barred from getting loans from any bank based in New York, and state law can tag him with a 9% interest rate if he tries to skip paying it.

[CaptainEurope]

So at the upper end of what was expected then. Add that to 83 million, that means he is 447 million poorer, and all that comes out of cash. The RNC might be able to pay his legal fees, but I don't think they can pay his judgements.

Tonight's judgement alone is 450 because of interest.

[CaptainEurope]

I'm gonna quote myself because the judgement is even worse than I first thought. Trump is barred from getting loans from any bank based in New York, and state law can tag him with a 9% interest rate if he tries to skip paying it.

The optics of the likely GOP presidential candidate going through this are not great for him.

[babyblob]

The optics of the likely GOP presidential candidate going through this are not great for him.

This is not hurting his optics with his cult one bit. They still love him, they still cheer for him. Most of them think this is all some huge plot to keep him from being elected. They will fork over their hard earned money to help him pay legal bills and judgments.

Anyone thinking this is going to hurt him with his base is pretty off base.

[kidfresh512]

The good thing about having the MAGA base and these donors funneling cash to defend Trump and his acolytes is that is money that will be harder for other individual candidates the GOP wants to run to have. Dems dont have to worry about paying off lawyers to defend rape cases, and porn star payments etc.

All DNC money can go to actual campaigns at every level. I am here for it.