DC Comics 2024 News/General Discussion

[HsssH]

Building up new threats in season 3 is harder than in season 1.

[Primal Slayer]

And then Weisman wonders, why his shows are being cancelled.

Spiderman was due to rights
YJ was because of toys
YJ-2 probably cost because it was a top rates show for MAX
Gargoyles dropped the team and ruined s3

So it isn't about the quality of his shows

[Frontier]

I never really got Weisman's logic here, because taking out Light and Darkseid doesn't mean there are no other villains to take reins after they're gone. There are dozens of them.
He doesn't believe in definitive finals, okay, that's his opinion (I don't agree with him here, but I respect his point of view). But dragging the same old story and refusing to at least give it some significant development is just one of reasons why YJ lost most of its' viewership and wasn't renewed.

I think Weisman's too in love with these Machiavellian villains like Xanatos whom you can never truly defeat and always find some way to turn the tables (though Xanatos kind of grew out of it).

It's just the show did not benefit from being such a slow burn as it went along.

[skyvolt2000]

His TV shows got cancelled because of low toy sales, right?

Here how it goes with most cartoon shows.

Toy sales help deal with the costs of the shows. There are exceptions like Fox's Animation Domination shows and show like Arthur or Netflix's She-ra.
For everyone else it's toy sales or back in the day the magical number of 65 episodes. 65 episodes allowed you to run an entire series at least TWICE a year. If you aired it 5 times a week.
Now Gargoyles and Ducktales and Darkwing Duck are among the exceptions.

In the case of Young Justice, Static Shock, 2001 He-Man and Masters of The Universe shows-TOY DEALS were the reason they ended.

NOBODY wanted to do Static toys despite it being the second highest rated cartoon during it's entire run. Only Digimon beat it.

He-Man and YJ it was toys sales and as a toy collector myself I can pretty much tell you why.

A LOT of those figures especially the deluxe figures of Aqualab (MAINLY) were not sold everywhere. I had to DRIVE to another city to get mine.


Always remember as an owner of an IP that relies on SALES-you are FOREVER at the mercy of the bias of a store.

It's why stuff like New Superman, Ms Marvel, Moon Girl and others do better as trades in other venues.

[Konja7]

Here how it goes with most cartoon shows.

Toy sales help deal with the costs of the shows. There are exceptions like Fox's Animation Domination shows and show like Arthur or Netflix's She-ra.
For everyone else it's toy sales or back in the day the magical number of 65 episodes. 65 episodes allowed you to run an entire series at least TWICE a year. If you aired it 5 times a week.
Now Gargoyles and Ducktales and Darkwing Duck are among the exceptions.

In the case of Young Justice, Static Shock, 2001 He-Man and Masters of The Universe shows-TOY DEALS were the reason they ended.

NOBODY wanted to do Static toys despite it being the second highest rated cartoon during it's entire run. Only Digimon beat it.

He-Man and YJ it was toys sales and as a toy collector myself I can pretty much tell you why.

A LOT of those figures especially the deluxe figures of Aqualab (MAINLY) were not sold everywhere. I had to DRIVE to another city to get mine.


Always remember as an owner of an IP that relies on SALES-you are FOREVER at the mercy of the bias of a store.

It's why stuff like New Superman, Ms Marvel, Moon Girl and others do better as trades in other venues.

Honestly, I doubt the bias of a store has so much influence here.

In the case of toy sales, the "issue" is that toys companies and stores tend to create/want toys for kids, since adult toy collectors don't tend to be a big enough audience.

The main audience for Young Justice ended up being teens or adults, which is an issue because this audience doesn't tend to buy regular kid toys (some may buy deluxe versions). Toy companies invest on animated shows to sell regular kid toys, since it will gave them the biggest profit.


PS: Young Justice could return as a streaming show, because it depends on people seeing the show (selling regular kid toys wasn't necessary anymore).

[El_Gato]

Here how it goes with most cartoon shows.

Toy sales help deal with the costs of the shows. There are exceptions like Fox's Animation Domination shows and show like Arthur or Netflix's She-ra.
For everyone else it's toy sales or back in the day the magical number of 65 episodes. 65 episodes allowed you to run an entire series at least TWICE a year. If you aired it 5 times a week.
Now Gargoyles and Ducktales and Darkwing Duck are among the exceptions.

In the case of Young Justice, Static Shock, 2001 He-Man and Masters of The Universe shows-TOY DEALS were the reason they ended.

NOBODY wanted to do Static toys despite it being the second highest rated cartoon during it's entire run. Only Digimon beat it.

He-Man and YJ it was toys sales and as a toy collector myself I can pretty much tell you why.

A LOT of those figures especially the deluxe figures of Aqualab (MAINLY) were not sold everywhere. I had to DRIVE to another city to get mine.


Always remember as an owner of an IP that relies on SALES-you are FOREVER at the mercy of the bias of a store.

It's why stuff like New Superman, Ms Marvel, Moon Girl and others do better as trades in other venues.

Digimon and Static were a huge part of my childhood! Good to hear both shows had great ratings