Marvel's Non-Team: The Defenders Appreciation 2024

[Reviresco]

Love this picture, and that line-up is basically the Defenders for me (maybe I'd just replace Beast with Devil-Slayer).

Peace

PS: Happy 2024 to the Defenders and their fans.

Pretty much this. Minus Devil Slayer and Beast.

This pic is very good with some "classic" action shots of the characters taken from various Defenders stories.

I would not replace Beast with Devil-Slayer, but with Luke Cage Power Man!

Hmmmm. I don't about Luke. I definitely need to do a re-read. I think he was in the Defenders far more than I remember.

[Reviresco]

Captain america was an original defender also for a few issues. Same team as daredevil.


Spider-man joined in issue 109.


Also don't forget defenders for a day members, man-thing, and ghost rider.

Yeah, I don't think I can do Defenders For a Day on the roster... maybe just a pic from the issue.

Hmmmm. I just don't think of those guys as Defenders. But let me see what I can do.

[Reviresco]

Happy New Year Defenders fans! I hope this year brings the announcement of their volume 3 Omnibus and let's hope Valkyrie makes a return to the land of the living for a Defenders reunion. We can hope right?

I could totally get behind both of those things. I think we are getting the last Marvel Masterworks Defenders, though.

[Phoenixx9]

Pretty much this. Minus Devil Slayer and Beast.




Hmmmm. I don't about Luke. I definitely need to do a re-read. I think he was in the Defenders far more than I remember.

Yes, Luke started out way back in issue #17, right after Valkyrie left in the search for her past. He helped them out very much during the early 20's issues, being one of the ones who saved Valkyrie from being executed on TV while trussed up on an inverted cross by the Sons of the Serpent. Luke then helped out again majorly when Val was missing (actually being jailed) for destroying a "posh-penthouse restaurant while fighting a monster with her sword". All Excellent issues!

[kcekada]

Love this picture, and that line-up is basically the Defenders for me (maybe I'd just replace Beast with Devil-Slayer).

Yeah, I wasn't a fan of Hank as a Defender. Back when the team was closer to its classic lineup, I thought Iceman would be a good member. I didn't like, however, that they were trying to make this into an X-Men lite team with issue #125. Don't hold that era in very high regard.

[kcekada]

Hmmmm. I don't about Luke. I definitely need to do a re-read. I think he was in the Defenders far more than I remember.

Devil-Slayer was okay, but if Dr. Strange couldn't be a member, I'd have preferred Clea --- who didn't get to do much in the series-- sadly. Luke Cage was in some of my favorite stories in the mid to late 1970s.

[Gaastra]

Yeah, I don't think I can do Defenders For a Day on the roster... maybe just a pic from the issue.

Hmmmm. I just don't think of those guys as Defenders. But let me see what I can do.

"Non team" remember. Anyone who helps is a member pre new defenders. Says right in that story. Blame marvel and dr strange for setting up that dumb rule. Makes defenders one of the most confusing member list teams ever! Ever hero or bad guy that aids the team pre new defenders is a member with that rule!

Thats why new defenders threw that rule away.

[Astral Disaster]

Happy New Year Defenders fans! I hope this year brings the announcement of their volume 3 Omnibus and let's hope Valkyrie makes a return to the land of the living for a Defenders reunion. We can hope right?

Count me in, she's already been "gone" nearly half a decade, and should be escorting fallen warriors TO Valhalla, not cooling her heels there herself.

[kcekada]

The Defenders for a Day fit in to their own category, so I wouldn't include them for all of the other non-members. I was pretty thrilled to see Havok and Polaris show up. Wish they had stayed since they were rarely appearing in X-Men.

[Reviresco]

Yeah, I wasn't a fan of Hank as a Defender. Back when the team was closer to its classic lineup, I thought Iceman would be a good member. I didn't like, however, that they were trying to make this into an X-Men lite team with issue #125. Don't hold that era in very high regard.

I don't think that was a very popular team.

Devil-Slayer was okay, but if Dr. Strange couldn't be a member, I'd have preferred Clea --- who didn't get to do much in the series-- sadly. Luke Cage was in some of my favorite stories in the mid to late 1970s.

Clea did show up when Strange wasn't around, like The Order and Fearless Defenders, IIRC. I clearly need to do a re-read of the Defenders, cause I really don't remember Cage that much.

The Defenders for a Day fit in to their own category, so I wouldn't include them for all of the other non-members. I was pretty thrilled to see Havok and Polaris show up. Wish they had stayed since they were rarely appearing in X-Men.

Defenders For a Day was a great fun idea, but it really is it's own thing, that highlighted all the unused superheroes.

"Non team" remember. Anyone who helps is a member pre new defenders. Says right in that story. Blame marvel and dr strange for setting up that dumb rule. Makes defenders one of the most confusing member list teams ever! Ever hero or bad guy that aids the team pre new defenders is a member with that rule!

Thats why new defenders threw that rule away.

Technically, almost everyone would be a Defender -- which is kind of what Strange did in Secret Defenders. Just grabbed up whoever to fight the current crisis. And that's how the original founders treated it, I think.

[Reviresco]

Count me in, she's already been "gone" nearly half a decade, and should be escorting fallen warriors TO Valhalla, not cooling her heels there herself.

I honestly haven't followed closely Thor or the Valkyries since ... well the God Butcher arc. I think, like most of Marvel now, they might have made a big of a mess with Asgard and its cast. And it wasn't like Val had the cleanest background before that. Regardless, I do wish we could get some version of the old school Val back.

[Reviresco]

This was posted in one of the older threads ... someone made a custom Defenders deck for themselves in the Marvel Legendary Card Game. It's pretty cool, and each card has art and stats and powers.

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/150...sion-203-cards


They came up with a basic roster of ten, plus they made a Defender for a Day deck of 35 + the basic 10 for a total of 45.

The basic Defenders Roster:
Black Knight, Nighthawk, Hellcat, Son of Satan, Valkyrie, Clea, Dr. Strange, Namor, Hulk, Silver Surfer

Defenders for a Day Stack:
Angel, Beast, Black Goliath, Captain Marv-ell, Captain Ultra, Clea, Daredevil, Devil Slayer, Falcon, Gargoyle, Havok, Hawkeye, Hercules, Howard the Duck, Ice Man, Iron Fist, Jack of Harts, Luke Cage, Marvel Man (Quasar), Moon Dragon, Moon Knight, Ms Marvel (Carol Danvers), Namorita, Nova, Paladin, Polaris, Professor X, Prowler, Red Guardian, Spider-Man, Stingray, Tagak the Leopard Lord???, Thing, Torpedo, White Tiger,

Okay, WHO is this guy?




Oh, and extra kudos for including this card, as a Bystander. lol

[Hypestyle]

I hope that Blue Marvel can be part of the new Defenders whenever a new series or mini series comes out. If Doc Strange, Hulk, Sub-Mariner and Silver Surfer can be part of it too, cool.

[JudicatorPrime]

My hope for 2024 (and going forward) is that Marvel settles down and gives us a set team with 2-3 "founding" members with an equal number of new faces that stay with the team through a good 24-36 issue run.

Let's also give the team a purpose. Something like protecting the Earth and "contiguous" dimensions from extradimensional threats. This alliance would include "sister" dimensions like Avalon, the Dark Dimension, at least one Nether dimension, the Asgardian realms, etc.

Naturally, the members of the team would be representatives of those dimensions. Something like...

Valkyrie (Asgard)
Clea (Dark Dimension)
Blue Marvel (Neutral Zone)
Hulk (The Realm Below All)
The Green Knight or Violet Swan or Lionheart (Avalon/Otherworld)
Andromeda (Atlantis/ mainstream Earth)

Etc., etc.

[Phoenixx9]

My hope for 2024 (and going forward) is that Marvel settles down and gives us a set team with 2-3 "founding" members with an equal number of new faces that stay with the team through a good 24-36 issue run.

Let's also give the team a purpose. Something like protecting the Earth and "contiguous" dimensions from extradimensional threats. This alliance would include "sister" dimensions like Avalon, the Dark Dimension, at least one Nether dimension, the Asgardian realms, etc.

Naturally, the members of the team would be representatives of those dimensions. Something like...

Valkyrie (Asgard)
Clea (Dark Dimension)
Blue Marvel (Neutral Zone)
Hulk (The Realm Below All)

Etc., etc.

Plus...Damon Helstrom--Hell
Silver Surfer--Space
Namor the Sub-Mariner--UnderSea Kingdoms