[Quote Originally Posted by Thor-El 10-15-2020 12:32 PM]
"Jason Aaron should know there is already a winner of the Phoenix Force and his name is Phoenixx9."
Like a Red Dragon, The Phoenix shall Soar in 2024!
Last edited by Grinning Soul; 01-11-2024 at 09:08 AM.
Yes. After Moira killed Jean, Jean's mind/soul went to the White Hot Room. In the Jean solo, she created alternate realities in the White Hot Room where she made different choices in her past. She was trying to figure out where she went wrong that led to her current situation. It ended with her accepting her Phoenix power.
In Immortal it was revealed that 250,000 mutants on Krakoa had been teleported into the White Hot Room. This was Mother Righteous' doing to disorient Jean because having the subjective experiences of 250,000 mutants in her mind made it harder for her to come together to be reborn.
Anyways, Mother Righteous led Jean through the desert and through the cosmic construction worker's towers and into the empty white space part of the White Hot Room.
She stabs Jean through the heart and uses her blood to write a god into existence there in the White Hot Room.
However, original Sinister had created a failsafe so that when each of his clones succeeded in becoming/creating a Dominion, their dominion-ness would go to him.
Jean is currently bleeding out in the White Hot Room and the White Hot Room is said to be mortally wounded (because Jean is).
Jean being able to take control of the White Hot Room in Jean Grey #11 and her being disoriented by having 250k living beings with their subjective experiences in the White Hot Room in Immortal #18, implies (at least on some woo level) that the White Hot Room is Jean's mindscape, no?
Like stated in Immortal 17, Jean is the house where the Phoenix lives and the Phoenix is the house where Jean lives and The White Hot Room is where the Phoenix lives.
The Phoenix is as dead as Jean is. Now Jean is mortally wounded and so is the White Hot Room.
Jean is Phoenix is White Hot Room is Jean is Phoenix is White Hot Room... in a circle without beginning or end.
Last edited by PhoenixStudies; 01-11-2024 at 09:33 AM.
But doesn’t it all seem over complicated? Maybe it’s me but I miss old fashioned superhero stories, told in a more linear fashion, without have to read multiple books that feed into the larger story line, and not in a way the crossovers usually do. I read Fall of. x and Rise of Powers of X 1, and I just felt bewildered, though. Nimrod does mention Phoenix Fire at some point.
I do am also getting disturbed by the amount of violence currently in the books, it seems the oppression / genocide is happening too closely in our own world, so reading it makes it uncomfortable. And I want challenging but comfortable reading. Xmen with Orchis and so many time lines is becoming more sci fi than superhero. The only reason I get them is for Jean, and yet she is out of action for at least 3 months.
Am not sure where I’m going with this, Jeans body had turned to dust in Hellfire Gala, now she is “killed” well stabbed, in WHR. Enough Jean aimed violence!
At least Jean dies to return, always coming back.
But I feel some of that frustration too.
I kind of figured that since Immortal 18 implied that Jean = Phoenix = White Hot Room that since Jean and the Phoenix were wounded then the WHR would be as well. Which begs the question that if Jean dies here wouldn't that destroy the WHR and kill all the mutants stuck there?
There is suppose to be a divine intervention by the Phoenix and an escape from the White Hot Room at some point. I hope its actually shown on panel.
Ah, perfect, luv! You always make me laugh and I certainly needed one today, so thank you so very much!! :HUGS:
I agree, what is this other-people-not-dead-in-the-WHR stuff? Also re:killing Jean while she is still dead? Hurting the WHR?
Naw, none of that sits right with me!
[Quote Originally Posted by Thor-El 10-15-2020 12:32 PM]
"Jason Aaron should know there is already a winner of the Phoenix Force and his name is Phoenixx9."
Like a Red Dragon, The Phoenix shall Soar in 2024!