The Aqua(man) family Appreciation 2024

[Primal Slayer]

It is still on the path to breakeven, the movie is showing legs. Without any marketing.
As for critical failure, first movie did not get any outstanding reviews by critics and it went to be the 3rd Best ever WB movie and Best ever DC movie. Not the first time that Critics praised movies that afterwards turned to be failures at box office.

Going from a billion to possibly $500 if they're lucky, does not a threequel make when your looking to reboot. Yes it will at least give the DCEU a not SO DISMAL finale at the box office but still not that great.

And the first is certified fresh w/66%. This is rotten with $35%

[skyvolt2000]

It still is a box office failure. And critically a failure.

So Aquaman along with Wonder Woman should NEVER appear in another movie then?

Will that make everyone feel better?

So we can get buried by nonstop Batman movies?

And then when folks starting asking for more-WB can say "when we TRIED others-it was a nonstop crybabyfest and demands of failure the moment we announce the films."

Maybe it's time to be grateful that a character that so many MAINLY comic book folks called a joke and made all those folks EAT those words with a movie that made a billion. Had it NOT been for the toxic nature of Warner Brothers and folks wanting the demise of all comic book films and other factors the second one is not going to do that.

End of the day Aquaman got two movies. That will have plenty of showings on tv and on streams.

There are fans of other characters that would LOVE that.

[Mantis-Ray]

In fairness to Aquaman 2 making less, movies in general have been doing badly for a long while and its been hitting everyone. There have been some successes here and there, but the movie industry is doing really badly as a whole currently.

Amusingly Aquaman 2 at least made more than The Marvels, another movie that made far less than its billion dollar predecessor.

[Goldrake]

Going from a billion to possibly $500 if they're lucky, does not a threequel make when your looking to reboot. Yes it will at least give the DCEU a not SO DISMAL finale at the box office but still not that great.

And the first is certified fresh w/66%. This is rotten with $35%

Give me the promotion, marketing and hype they did for the first movie, or better just the marketing for Flash and we can talk about it being a flop.

You are missing the point, that this movie ON its OWN, abandoned by its own studio, is achieving a respectable result. Together with superhero fatigue, reshoots, end of DCEU, not even James Gunn did spare a word in favour of this movie.

As for rotten they gave the First Suicide Squad 26% and had one of the best DCEU BO's while they gave Flash 63% WW84 58% Blue Beetle 78% BOP 78% all flops. You give them too much importance. Never understood why people even do.

Just because you did not like a movie, does not mean it is a bad movie. This movie is not close to the first, has flaws, but it is an enjoyable movie, better than many DCEU movies, despite all it went through.

[Primal Slayer]

So Aquaman along with Wonder Woman should NEVER appear in another movie then?

Will that make everyone feel better?

So we can get buried by nonstop Batman movies?

And then when folks starting asking for more-WB can say "when we TRIED others-it was a nonstop crybabyfest and demands of failure the moment we announce the films."

Maybe it's time to be grateful that a character that so many MAINLY comic book folks called a joke and made all those folks EAT those words with a movie that made a billion. Had it NOT been for the toxic nature of Warner Brothers and folks wanting the demise of all comic book films and other factors the second one is not going to do that.

End of the day Aquaman got two movies. That will have plenty of showings on tv and on streams.

There are fans of other characters that would LOVE that.

Please show me where I said that Aquaman SHOULD NEVER BE IN ANOTHER MOVIE

Give me the promotion, marketing and hype they did for the first movie, or better just the marketing for Flash and we can talk about it being a flop.

You are missing the point, that this movie ON its OWN, abandoned by its own studio, is achieving a respectable result. Together with superhero fatigue, reshoots, end of DCEU, not even James Gunn did spare a word in favour of this movie.

As for rotten they gave the First Suicide Squad 26% and had one of the best DCEU BO's while they gave Flash 63% WW84 58% Blue Beetle 78% BOP 78% all flops. You give them too much importance. Never understood why people even do.

Just because you did not like a movie, does not mean it is a bad movie. This movie is not close to the first, has flaws, but it is an enjoyable movie, better than many DCEU movies, despite all it went through.

And just because you like a movie does not make it good.

But yes, it doing as good as it is with the studio abandoning it is a good thing

[Goldrake]

Please show me where I said that Aquaman SHOULD NEVER BE IN ANOTHER MOVIE




And just because you like a movie does not make it good.

But yes, it doing as good as it is with the studio abandoning it is a good thing

I never said it was a great movie, just said it was enjoyable. It is not even close to the first. However despite the flaws the movie has, it is achieving a very respectable result especially since it was left on its own. The only DC movie that did not get any promotion and it will probably have the best Box office since Aquaman 1. No mean feat, all in all.
DC and James Gunn(who spared not even a tweet to support this movie) should review their approach to this character, who is more popular than one thinks. Aquaman has proved that out there he has love and that should be taken in consideration.

Twice Aquaman has defied expectations, it means something.

[Rac7d*]

Going from a billion to possibly $500 if they're lucky, does not a threequel make when your looking to reboot. Yes it will at least give the DCEU a not SO DISMAL finale at the box office but still not that great.

And the first is certified fresh w/66%. This is rotten with $35%

We’re not looking for a threequel, it just means WB gets some return, Momoa is still a draw despite lack of promotion and controversy

[Goldrake]

We’re not looking for a threequel, it just means WB gets some return, Momoa is still a draw despite lack of promotion and controversy

I won't reduce it to Momoa. In this movie he is actually one of the weaker annoying points. In China it is more Wan than Momoa for sure. Also the character is well received in certain countries overseas. Aquaman 1 did well overseas less at home. After all Aquaman was the punchline for decades in the USA not abroad.

This movie is enjoyable and that's that.

[Rac7d*]

I won't reduce it to Momoa. In this movie he is actually one of the weaker annoying points. In China it is more Wan than Momoa for sure. Also the character is well received in certain countries overseas. Aquaman 1 did well overseas less at home. After all Aquaman was the punchline for decades in the USA not abroad.

This movie is enjoyable and that's that.

Is that for sure ? Does wan have some track record overseas?

[Goldrake]

In China, they love him, his Furious 7 did nearly 400 million if not mistaken.

That movie did over a billion overseas.

[Rac7d*]

In China, they love him, his Furious 7 did nearly 400 million if not mistaken.

That movie did over a billion overseas.

China has shut out superhero movies for a while so this is a revelation and I’m Sure WB is recognizing this. Luckily Momoa has said WB is still his home, so we don’t have to worry about the McU snatching him up

[Goldrake]

China has shut out superhero movies for a while so this is a revelation and I’m Sure WB is recognizing this. Luckily Momoa has said WB is still his home, so we don’t have to worry about the McU snatching him up

More than Momoa, WB should ensure Wan stays. He is one of the few directors who has managed to have more than a movie that grossed over a billion. His Aquaman is the best grossing DC movie ever and the 3rd in the history of WB. James Wan took notice of the slightest detail in keeping the characters in Aquaman faithful to the comic as possible. He showed he cared for the history and mythos of the characters. Just look at Aquaman's suit it is perfect and he insisted that it had to be such. I doubt after all Wan had to go through with Aquaman 2 that he is so keen to stay with WB. Losing Wan will be a big loss, bigger than losing Momoa.

As for Momoa he can play Lobo, but it won't be the same as playing Aquaman. But reducing Aquaman's success to Momoa is reductive, he was not the sole reason. In Aquaman 1 he was awesome, in this Aquaman average to mediocre.

[Goldrake]

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Next week the King and Queen of Atlantis vs Godzilla

[marvelprince]

More than Momoa, WB should ensure Wan stays. He is one of the few directors who has managed to have more than a movie that grossed over a billion. His Aquaman is the best grossing DC movie ever and the 3rd in the history of WB. James Wan took notice of the slightest detail in keeping the characters in Aquaman faithful to the comic as possible. He showed he cared for the history and mythos of the characters. Just look at Aquaman's suit it is perfect and he insisted that it had to be such. I doubt after all Wan had to go through with Aquaman 2 that he is so keen to stay with WB. Losing Wan will be a big loss, bigger than losing Momoa.

As for Momoa he can play Lobo, but it won't be the same as playing Aquaman. But reducing Aquaman's success to Momoa is reductive, he was not the sole reason. In Aquaman 1 he was awesome, in this Aquaman average to mediocre.

Yeah I actually thought it was pretty insulting personally that they let Momoa essentially write and shadow direct this thing when Wans direction was a key part of what made the first movie work. He helped rein in Momoa so his Aquaman was more layered and nuanced and not just a meathead. I liked the Lost Kingdom but the tonal shift particularly in Arthur is jarring.

[Goldrake]

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James Wan in the first movie really went through Aquaman's history, the official poster was inspired from old Aquaman artwork. Even the positioning of Arthur and Mera in the poster is identical to the old artwork