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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    What were the edgy retreads in JSA and Stars and S.T.R.I.P.E.?
    I don't think Aquaman got that edgy either (The Trench aside but those were new). I guess the Thrones of Atlantis death?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    The only new characters that really mattered were Miss Martian, Ravager, and Kid Devil.
    Rose and Eddie were not new characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phonogram12 View Post
    No, but there was a discount Brother Blood, to be sure.
    Always hated that DC Direct produced an action figure of lame Baby Blood instead of the superior version created by Wolfman and Perez. Looking back, Johns' run was only okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    To be fair that came pretty late in his run.

    The only new characters that really mattered were Miss Martian, Ravager, and Kid Devil.
    Most of the characters he introduced were "repurposed characters." Such as Frankenstien, Hotspot, Kid Devil and Ravager. For the really NEW characters, Zachary Zatara also had some longer legs. And I really wanted to know more about Molecule, but never got to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drako View Post
    Rose and Eddie were not new characters.
    I meant new to the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I meant new to the team.
    Well, by that time he had to put new characters to the team cause Infinity Crisis f*ked with a lot of Titans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I don't think Aquaman got that edgy either (The Trench aside but those were new). I guess the Thrones of Atlantis death?
    He did do his whole John's thing where the heroes dad needed to be killed off and was the one who had Aquaman also kill Manta's dad to justify the blood feud between them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marvelprince View Post
    He did do his whole John's thing where the heroes dad needed to be killed off and was the one who had Aquaman also kill Manta's dad to justify the blood feud between them.
    Yeah, but by Johns standards that was pretty mild .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    To be fair that came pretty late in his run.

    The only new characters that really mattered were Miss Martian, Ravager, and Kid Devil.
    I loved Kid Devil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Yeah, but by Johns standards that was pretty mild .
    Lol good point. And to be fair I think it worked for a character like Arthur and his relationship with Black Manta vs someone like Barry Allen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    They weren't just rehashes though, just re-using established concepts differently as a way to re-introduce a new Titans team.

    To me it's just taking certain established concepts and then watering them down/diminishing them with a new and less interesting character.
    Okay, that's exactly how I found the Johns run to be.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Yeah, but by Johns standards that was pretty mild .
    I don't think that necessarily makes it good either lol
    Keep in mind that you have about as much chance of changing my mind as I do of changing yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phonogram12 View Post
    Okay, that's exactly how I found the Johns run to be.
    So that's your stance on Jericho in Deathstroke or Johns' Brother Blood? I think those were the only instances I can think of...other than using Dr. Light as a major antagonist but it was very different than what Wolfman/Perez did with him.
    I don't think that necessarily makes it good either lol
    Not necessarily bad either, though that's probably down to personal taste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reddead View Post
    He knows who it is. Dr. Hate unmasked in front of him right before erasing his mind. Gar even screams out her name.



    Poor Gar probably died thinking his girlfriend betrayed him again.
    Is Gar a Doctor Who fan? He's quoting Tennant's original last line there.
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