This is probably the best Wonder Woman fight since Medusa in Rucka's first run, or the one with Barbara in Perez's run.
This is probably the best Wonder Woman fight since Medusa in Rucka's first run, or the one with Barbara in Perez's run.
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I really like the contrast between how Grail trumpets how she’s powerful and special because of who her father is, while Diana of course emphasizes her mother. It’s a contrast that I hope to see expanded on.
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Well Diana doesn’t have a father to emphasize. ;P
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Was thinking about Grail and it just clicked for me what King is doing deliberately or not: Grail works as the Zod/Bane evil mirror foe for Dina because she’s what people often think Diana is. She’s a bloodthirsty warrior who loves fighting, empowers herself by putting others down, is strong because of her father, serves as the enforcer for a male authority figure like Injustice WW, and has no problem “doing whatever it takes” (killing) to achieve her goals. Chalk it up to Johns making Grail as close to New 52 WW as possible - which was already a dark deviation from classic WW - and you’ve got a character who actually reflects all the core elements of Wonder Woman in a twisted way. Her mother doesn’t matter at all, for all her power she’s constantly doing the bidding of men, despite existing outside the status quo of Man’s World she has no problem reinforcing it to suit her own selfish needs, and while the rest of the Amazons are exiled, outlawed, or dead, Grail is allying with the very person who has ordered the deaths of her “sisters”.
She’s an “evil WW” in ways beyond just being a literal bad Amazon, she’s a strong female character who embodies all the worst aspects of Man’s World and helps push back against those who want to change it for the better like Diana. She’s the status quo enforcer to Diana’s rebel. Grail is a “Wonder Woman” who totally would go around collecting peoples heads as war trophies the way Snyder wanted DCEU WW to be, and I like that Diana now has a foe who embodies all the terrible takes people have on her, and she can punch that person in the face. Hope King keeps building her up, Grail has thematic potential now to serve as a contrast in ways that go beyond mere physicality (though I certainly want more fights between her and Diana).
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One thing that I thought was odd about Phil's Villainy Inc. team was that half of the members were Donna's foes but Villainy Inc. never ended up fighting Donna in his run.
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