Wolverine/X-23 Laura Kinney Appreciation 2024

[Persephone]

Honestly it was getting suspicious that Laura had gone this long as a regular presence without getting dramatically killed off. Looks like the writers are over correcting by fridging her twice in one month for the sake of two different men.

At least Bellona is back. Maybe she and Gabby can get a mini. Or at least something on Unlimited.

[Grunty]

LOL...I dont know why you and others try to use that argument against me. Yes every one brought back by Krakoa are clones and have officially died. Im actually thinking the Phoenix Force is gonna be used to nullify that via a mass resurrection that resets all the characters and removes any possibility of tainting but thats oviously just a theory

To be honest, that was less meant to argue against you and more that this whole situation is reflective of the writers casualy killing and/or altering characters beyond their established (and cemented) characterization or image, thanks to it being an easy to overuse "get out of X free" card in form of the ressurection protocol.

Under other circumstances something like the Vault Laura situation would have likely been resolved by her being somehow turned back into her early 20's version via time travel/alteration shenanigans again.

So that version would have been around as novelity for a short while, a "what she could be when she turns 100+ years old" situation and then it's back to the shape people know and associate wit the character and the potential for character development in an environment which actualy matters long term or at all.

No need to have a younger version running around that still matches the popular image, while the original is heavily altered, but with no longterm value, making the whole situation needlessly convoluted.

As for the phoenix force fix. That sounds like a reasonable possibility.

[Thievery]

Well, as someone who liked both Talon/Laura and Wolverine/Laura it looks like we got the worst of both worlds. Talon ended up being cheap cannon fodder and Laura is now back to being a clone of another character.

I really thought that Talon was brought back from the vault to provide more than just a disposable love interest for Synch. Guess that I was a fool. No one is even going to care about Sync/Talon because it almost completely happened off pane. Talon may have just as well not been brought back from the vault. I know that I would prefer if things went that way now.

I hope that I'm wrong, but it looks like we are headed to more stories of Laura angsting over being a clone

[Digifiend]

It's true - everyone resurrected on Krakoa are actually clones, just with the memories of the original. So Talon and Wolverine are like Peter Parker and Ben Reilly. They had the same memories up to a certain point, then diverged when the clone was created. The only difference was that most of the other clones were created after the original died, but in this case they didn't realise the Laura that became Talon had survived.

I wonder what Mr and Mrs Khan would think if they discovered Kamala's secret identity - and that she was resurrected this way? Discovering she's effectively a clone and she still has a dead body somewhere would probably test their faith in Allah!

[Havok83]

Well, as someone who liked both Talon/Laura and Wolverine/Laura it looks like we got the worst of both worlds. Talon ended up being cheap cannon fodder and Laura is now back to being a clone of another character.

I really thought that Talon was brought back from the vault to provide more than just a disposable love interest for Synch. Guess that I was a fool. No one is even going to care about Sync/Talon because it almost completely happened off pane. Talon may have just as well not been brought back from the vault. I know that I would prefer if things went that way now.

I hope that I'm wrong, but it looks like we are headed to more stories of Laura angsting over being a clone

Yeah nothing was done with her. Id have rather the theory that she was a sleeper agent sent by the Vault. At least then she'd have had a significant exit when that twist was revealed

[Grunty]

Yeah nothing was done with her. Id have rather the theory that she was a sleeper agent sent by the Vault. At least then she'd have had a significant exit when that twist was revealed

It would have made a lot of sense.

The miraculous survival.
The fact that the COTV for some reason kept her in a freezer.
Being seemingly completely unaltered despite being a prisoner for what should have been another century.
Forge conviniently outsmarting people who had spend thousands of years hyper evolving and only "recently" had to deal with 3 infiltrators running free in their city for a century and finding her.

Though given how little of a role the COTV ultimately played (again), it's not suprising that such a plan was dropped, if there ever was one.

[Thievery]

It's true - everyone resurrected on Krakoa are actually clones, just with the memories of the original. So Talon and Wolverine are like Peter Parker and Ben Reilly. They had the same memories up to a certain point, then diverged when the clone was created. The only difference was that most of the other clones were created after the original died, but in this case they didn't realise the Laura that became Talon had survived.

I wonder what Mr and Mrs Khan would think if they discovered Kamala's secret identity - and that she was resurrected this way? Discovering she's effectively a clone and she still has a dead body somewhere would probably test their faith in Allah!

The last thing that I want to see is for Talon/Wolverine to end up like a Ben/Peter clone thing. I don't see anything good from that happening. Talon's gone, and most likely to be forgotten by almost everyone. Wolverine should be the real Laura. No need to keep bringing up the failure that Talon became.

I'm also not liking the idea of all the X-Men being nothing but clones with the dead characters' memories. Who gives a hoot about a phonies story.

Miss. Marvel is a nice character, but I still wish she wasn't in the X-Men. I think she's better off in the Avengers or Spider-Man corner of Marvel. So I'm not really all that interested in what her family thinks.
Just my opinions.

[Rakurai]

Spoilers for Laura from Wolverine/Sabertooth War:
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Laura has been captured by 2 named Sabres: Savage and Camo + nameless headless Sabres. She's locked in prison cell and starts to mess with Sabres to get information and turn them against each other. It works: she learns they are from different dimensions "So, are you two clones? No shame in that, I used to think I was a clone." - thank you, I enjoy Laura feeling more of Logan's daughter then clone. "Different dimensions? And were you the beta in your home dimension too?" not as much what Laura would say normally, but it's funny and serves the purpose - Savage is pissed and weakens Laura with Essence of Leech so she won't heal too fast and she rips her tongue off. "Cat got your tongue?" (tongue is quite a hard word, I needed to go back to the panel to spell it correctly). "I couldn't listen to her any longer, but she's right (...)" so Laura's sacrifice did work and now Camo and Savage Saberteeth are conspiring against Creed and go looking for Graydon. Overall torture porn continues, but that's nothing new to Laura, she'll get better. In issue 47 she'll probably get revenge on Savage and I'll be there for that.

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[Darzefader]

Looks like Laura is getting her own One-Shot in the upcoming Blood Hunt Vampire event.
They list her one shot issue as X-Men: Blood Hunt - Laura Kinney The Wolverine.

I don't know much about the writer or artist on this one but I hope its a fun issue!

[Persephone]

Daredevil Spoilers

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Bellona is ambiguously dead. Elektra knocked her off of a tall building, Bellona cut the line sent out to save her, she collided with something a long way down. Elektra's narration asserts her belief that she couldn't have survived it without a healing factor. Which, you know, Bellona doesn't have. She goes back later to check if Bellona is dead and doesn't find the body, only a bloodstain. For now she's implied to be dead but it's comics and they didn't show a body so she's only really dead until another writer wants to do something with her.

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[Nazrel]

Increasing hoping this era ends with it getting erased from the time line.

[Kurolegacy]

Daredevil Spoilers

spoilers:

Bellona is ambiguously dead. Elektra knocked her off of a tall building, Bellona cut the line sent out to save her, she collided with something a long way down. Elektra's narration asserts her belief that she couldn't have survived it without a healing factor. Which, you know, Bellona doesn't have. She goes back later to check if Bellona is dead and doesn't find the body, only a bloodstain. For now she's implied to be dead but it's comics and they didn't show a body so she's only really dead until another writer wants to do something with her.

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I’d say the ending with Elektra not finding a body despite leaving her there implies that she’s still alive. She mentioned last issue that Kimura had given her modifications. It seems that the claws wasn’t the only one. It’s entirely possible that she was given some form of artificial healing factor or was made more durable than an average person that a fall wouldn’t kill her.

Sadly due to this being a tie-in, I doubt anyone is gonna bother to tell Logan or Laura about Bellona though.

[Jackraow21]

Another Deadpool variant...

[Darzefader]

Nice to see Laura back in one of her best costumes!

Although does this cover look a little like cell shaded 3D models to anyone else?

[Gunther]

Laura was featured prominently in the krakoa era, yet the substance of her appearances were feeble and uncharacteristic of the character she was in past years. I ponder what will become of Laura in the next phase of mutant comics? It is my hope that we will see a Laura akin to what we had some years past. I would ask the opinions of my fellow x-23 fan. What do you all want going forward?