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    Default Jace Fox/Batman Appreciation 2024

    I know I know.. You prolly thought no one would make this thread.

    But i had to! Dawn of DC aint over til it's over right? And until Jace shows up as Fodderman there's still a Batman of NYC out there contemplayting his newly retconed identity with his sister by his side..

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    First Topic, I guess: Interesting tweet from one of the writers from Outsiders about why Jace like... CAN'T show up? Some of the people in this X thread think it's editorial stuff being implied. Me? Not so sure. What do YALL think?


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    Makes sense. I Am Batman never had Luke come in nor find out.

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    Jace is my favorite Future State addition. He had a weak but decent first season. I'm hoping he gets a followup soon and an adaptation one day.

    Quote Originally Posted by Superboy-Prime View Post

    First Topic, I guess: Interesting tweet from one of the writers from Outsiders about why Jace like... CAN'T show up? Some of the people in this X thread think it's editorial stuff being implied. Me? Not so sure. What do YALL think?

    In the last appreciation thread, I thought Jace largely existed because of Ridley and will probably only continue to exist because of Ridley. So Jace could be off-limits to other writers.
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    Happy New Year to Jace and his fans .

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    Crossing my fingers that it's Jace

    “I am really excited because 2024… Can’t quite say [what] yet, but this is the year in comic books I’m going to revisit a character that I’ve been away from for a little bit,” Ridley teased towards the end of his interview. “I’m so excited. And what I’m really excited about, we’re digging a little bit more deeply into a… Not my universe, but a universe… I’m always leery about when people throw around universe. Not my universe, but a universe of characters who I love and a new character who’s going to be coming out of this fully formed.”


    https://comicbookclublive.com/2024/0...mic-book-2024/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twice-named View Post
    Crossing my fingers that it's Jace

    “I am really excited because 2024… Can’t quite say [what] yet, but this is the year in comic books I’m going to revisit a character that I’ve been away from for a little bit,” Ridley teased towards the end of his interview. “I’m so excited. And what I’m really excited about, we’re digging a little bit more deeply into a… Not my universe, but a universe… I’m always leery about when people throw around universe. Not my universe, but a universe of characters who I love and a new character who’s going to be coming out of this fully formed.”


    https://comicbookclublive.com/2024/0...mic-book-2024/
    Very interesting! Thank you. I do hope this is about Jace but it could be any number of characters from that Other History of the DC Universe story. Maybe someone from GCPD: The Blue Wall? Or someone from the One Bad Day: Penguin book. The possibilities...

    Edit: I just clicked the link and read the article. I bet it's the Authority. Jace could become a member.
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    Default My pitch for a followup

    This is crossposted from the pitch a miniseries thread by Ascended. These are ideas for seperate miniseries about 4 issues in length but could be retooled into a ongoing. Some of these could be tied together or condensed into two or three issue arcs.

    What do you think?

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    "Afterschool special"-
    Jace crosses paths with the Batpack from Titans Academy as they were seperately investigating a street racing gang doing robberies. The villians are a group of Rocket Racer meets Fast and the Furious wannabes .Its a romp where Jace has to put up with Batman's self-professed biggest fans and they see him as a pretender like Azrael rather than a successor like Dick was. They would end the miniseries gaining a respect for Jace as Batman. Originally i wanted them to became Jace's equivalent to Robin but Tiffany took that role.

    "Family History"-
    The Gotham Knights tie in "the gilded city" created a new vigilante called the Runaway. They were active in the late 1800s and were revealed to being a woman named Vivian Foxworthy. I don't mind bringing that character in the main universe and tieing her to the current fox family.

    Luke's relationship with Jace is underdeveloped so this miniseries would deal with that dynamic. Luke's new role in the current Outsider book could act as a setup for the plot and a point of contrast between the brothers. A fun gag would be 3 out of 4 of the Fox children are superheroes which leaves Tamara to call the other three (Jace, Luke, Tiffany) "The Skulk".

    "Inside Man"-

    This would focus on Waller trying to recruit Jace. He has looser connections to the Bat family and more of a wild card. So I thought Waller would see him as a potential asset. Jace would resist but contemplate infiltrating Waller's group in order to get the inside dirt on a potential scheme of hers. So some of the tension would be would Jace be found out or join Waller? We also can tie into Jace's past-showcasing some if his missions before he became Batman.

    For those who don't know- Jace felt like a freelance spy before he became Batman VI. He was in the middle of a mission before being escorted back to Gotham by Grifter.

    I'd say its similar to Priest's work on Deathstroke/Black Adam or Ridley's GCPD miniseries tonewise.

    Unlike my previous two this is more of a maxiseries that could go further.

    "Path not taken"
    Jace does a deep cover op as the Vulture when he realizes two of his old friends from school are members of the Terrible Trio and they are looking for a third. Jace originally started as Tim Fox a minor character from the 1980s. He believed Bruce was a slum lord and ended up becoming the Vulture. So this arc uses that fact as a homage and reconciles it with Jace's new characterization and history via Ridley's retcons.

    "Elseworlds"-
    Jace interacts with alternate version of himself in different IDs than Batman similar to what Miles did in What if...Miles Morales? miniseries from 2022- one universe where he picked up the Soultaker after Katana's death, one where he was made into a member of the Indigo Corps and Earth 3 where he never repented and became the Vulture from the Terrible Trio.

    "Robin/not robin"
    Jace's original original story arc had him become a villian because he thought Bruce Wayne was a slumlord jacking up rent. So I'd probably have Bruce try and use him as an agent in order to keep an eye on him. Can this version of Jace redeem himself or would he become a bigger threat?

    "Growing pains"-
    Haadiyah is an old friend from Jace's past that was a reoccuring character in Second Son/I am Batman. Towards the end of the run she became a Question esque character named named Nobody- complete with Question's face's covering effect and a history with Renee Montoya.

    Jace has to come to terms with her new role in his life while the Moral Authority from Jace's Fear State tie in return to tear down on the Batman of New York- both for his past victory over their previous leader and his current status as partner of the NYPD.

    The Moral Authority is reformed under new version of Wrath and Scorn.

    Optional Redesign-
    Jace wouldn't be that big on spandex before he became Batman so he'd get a more plainclothes look. Jace would still use the cape and cowl he currently has but it would be a more once in a while thing or story specific.

    examples-



    Jon davis hunt's take on Apollo and Midnighter from The Wild Storm.



    Spider-Woman's redesign in the Dennis Hopeless era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a moment closer View Post
    Very interesting! Thank you. I do hope this is about Jace but it could be any number of characters from that Other History of the DC Universe story. Maybe someone from GCPD: The Blue Wall? Or someone from the One Bad Day: Penguin book. The possibilities...

    Edit: I just clicked the link and read the article. I bet it's the Authority. Jace could become a member.
    What makes you think they’re talking about the Authority?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twice-named View Post
    Crossing my fingers that it's Jace

    “I am really excited because 2024… Can’t quite say [what] yet, but this is the year in comic books I’m going to revisit a character that I’ve been away from for a little bit,” Ridley teased towards the end of his interview. “I’m so excited. And what I’m really excited about, we’re digging a little bit more deeply into a… Not my universe, but a universe… I’m always leery about when people throw around universe. Not my universe, but a universe of characters who I love and a new character who’s going to be coming out of this fully formed.”


    https://comicbookclublive.com/2024/0...mic-book-2024/
    Man I really hope this is Jace. He’s got sooooo much potential. Along with a nice kick ass design. Let’s have him interact more directly with the wider DCU this time.

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    Would like to see him face off against Failsafe

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    Im really hoping we see more of jace. He was a very interesting rendition of the batman mythos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Happy New Year to Jace and his fans .
    Man, I really hope Jace comes back soon.

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    Looking at some of the latest developments in Green Arrow makes me wonder who else non-meta's Amanda Waller could try to recruit. I could see a world where Jace, who's less distrustful of institutions like Bruce, could be persuaded to work for her. What would you guys think of that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marvelprince View Post
    Looking at some of the latest developments in Green Arrow makes me wonder who else non-meta's Amanda Waller could try to recruit. I could see a world where Jace, who's less distrustful of institutions like Bruce, could be persuaded to work for her. What would you guys think of that?
    His original debut had him thinking Bruce was a slumlord back in the 80s. Even in Second Son, he saw Batman as a symbol for the rich he was taking back.

    Jace is more likely to overthrow the president than vote for them. I can't see him working for Waller without blackmail or coercion.
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    Have you guys seen this awesome AI work of Jace’s Batman on instagram.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/C35b-MTs...M0b21sNWxlMA==

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