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    Quote Originally Posted by butterflykyss View Post
    thanks. I may have to bear rereading that awful run to see what actually happened.
    There's nothing to see. He gave the team a ship so they could retrieve Kitty and Kurt from the Negative Zone. Just the faintest of continuity threads that established them as having met before, a delicate detail from our Lord Ewing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harasar View Post
    It was in X-Men Gold #17
    Correcto. It was brief and Storm didn't speak to Adam directly. Nice reference by Ewing.

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    Wrong thread.
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    One of the best X-Men issues in years!

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    A piece on Storm and Magneto's history if anyone is interested:

    https://www.marvel.com/articles/comi...ship-explained
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    Quote Originally Posted by JB View Post
    Correcto. It was brief and Storm didn't speak to Adam directly. Nice reference by Ewing.
    True, Storm doesn't really acknowledge Blue Marvel in X-Men Gold and likely barely knows him, which is why she had to breach his defenses when she entered his Kadesh base in RoM. (Kadesh is at the bottom of the ocean near Challenger Deep in the Mariana Trench. It's not easy to get to, even for superpowered folks.) Thanks to the transparency initiatives of the Ultimates broadcasting to the Earth when they were trying to fix Galactus, pretty much most of 616 Earth knows who Adam is.

    The eyebrow raising part, though, was when Storm indicated that she was aware of the breakup between Adam and Monica Rambeau. Who knew the goddess had time for idle gossip?
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    Part 2


    Storm’s NDE is a necessary take for her character to understand the trauma she’s avoiding. She’s fought a war and watched those closest to her die again. She’s held so many lives in her hands losing and never grieving. This is a central theme for her character and hearkens back to her freezing while facing the juggernaut at Cassidy Keep all those years ago. She froze back then letting the grief of her parents dying and being buried with her come out in a way that hurt her friends. In that moment she took a vow to never let that happen again. No matter what happens she won’t freeze. She hasn’t been perfect at it but she’s way stronger now. That’s why she jumped into the Waiting Room portal generator. The cost of that is a toll she chooses to carry at her expense.

    Why does she keep doing this? Why does she make herself so busy that she can’t reflect on herself and heal her pain? Why do we do that? Why do we avoid doing the deep work of looking inward to feel our hurts and pains and grief and integrate those feelings into our united self? Trauma splinters everyone, it creates in her the desire to save everyone so that she never has to examine her stuff. But unlike every other superhero Storm will always eventually look at her stuff. That journey of looking begins with Tarn.

    He’s the gatekeeper to the afterlife. He’s Storm’s second obstacle after death.


    Why does he want to devour her? Why does every villain want to devour her?


    It’s the power, for one thing, the pleasure of destroying another, the love of suffering. Tarn is the ultimate troll. Storm has embarrassed him so many times and brought him death in the form of Magneto. He wants revenge. But does he want revenge just for revenge’s sake? No, he doesn’t. Their initial conversation was cordial and he was willing to let her pass until she brought up Magneto.



    This is why the truth is so important and why Storm keeps sticking to it throughout the issue.


    Storm uses the truth as a weapon against Tarn’s lies and as a progression to keep her going on the path. What no one tells anyone while experiencing an NDE is that if one is to accomplish the goal of evolving from it one must always be willing to be true. Storm isn’t just speaking the truth, she is the TRUTH. I mean that literally, Storm could lie, but it would get in the way of her finding Max and devalue her soul. The bardo’s purpose is for the journeyperson to see the totality of themselves and realize they are worthy of love and mercy. Storm doesn’t completely see herself that way and Max can’t see himself that way. Storm as the spirit guide is there to show him but first she must embrace it herself. That’s what this journey is about.

    Al Ewing has been using Storm casually taking out enemies to tell a story. Unlike the feats folks, her actions are an elevation of her character not the totality of it. She’s not just doing this to demonstrate her power. Lightning is a symbol. What does it represent? Clarity, power, direction, defense, the way to the truth. Storm’s use of it is a union between her and the truth. It’s her will manifest as her intention to never veer away from her goal. Why is that important in an NDE?

    She will never find Max without that commitment; she will die or be pulled from her quest without it. The truth is her shield to protect from true death. Everything there except Ashake is designed to pull her away from being the truth and her commitment to her mission. Her evolution and ability to survive is at stake. She doesn’t have the luxury to focus on anything else. Every thought is a meditation to focus back on the mission of redeeming Max and evolving herself. She doesn’t fully know that yet. Ashake is there to get her to see that even as an evolved being she still must submit to the will of the universe. The universe itself is there to aid her in her quest but Storm must confront her fears of being vulnerable. Ashake scares Storm because Storm sees that Ashake is more spiritually mature than her. She initially hesitates to tell her about why she’s there. Why? Storm doesn’t think she’s good enough to warrant that level of love and support from a heavenly avatar. Anyone who has had an NDE feels the same way. They all need comfort and reassurance. Ashake provides both. Storm realizes quite early that her thoughts are naked there so she doesn’t need to lie and Ashake wouldn’t let her anyway. She’s there to help but before Storm can even say the truth out loud. Ashake does. That’s a pivotal moment because that builds the trust Storm needs to decide to confront and fully be herself.It forges the will and embraces the truth to go onto the next phase of her quest. The Tower

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    Quote Originally Posted by OG Storm View Post
    Part 2


    Storm’s NDE is a necessary take for her character to understand the trauma she’s avoiding. She’s fought a war and watched those closest to her die again. She’s held so many lives in her hands losing and never grieving. This is a central theme for her character and hearkens back to her freezing while facing the juggernaut at Cassidy Keep all those years ago. She froze back then letting the grief of her parents dying and being buried with her come out in a way that hurt her friends. In that moment she took a vow to never let that happen again. No matter what happens she won’t freeze. She hasn’t been perfect at it but she’s way stronger now. That’s why she jumped into the Waiting Room portal generator. The cost of that is a toll she chooses to carry at her expense.

    Why does she keep doing this? Why does she make herself so busy that she can’t reflect on herself and heal her pain? Why do we do that? Why do we avoid doing the deep work of looking inward to feel our hurts and pains and grief and integrate those feelings into our united self? Trauma splinters everyone, it creates in her the desire to save everyone so that she never has to examine her stuff. But unlike every other superhero Storm will always eventually look at her stuff. That journey of looking begins with Tarn.

    He’s the gatekeeper to the afterlife. He’s Storm’s second obstacle after death.


    Why does he want to devour her? Why does every villain want to devour her?


    It’s the power, for one thing, the pleasure of destroying another, the love of suffering. Tarn is the ultimate troll. Storm has embarrassed him so many times and brought him death in the form of Magneto. He wants revenge. But does he want revenge just for revenge’s sake? No, he doesn’t. Their initial conversation was cordial and he was willing to let her pass until she brought up Magneto.



    This is why the truth is so important and why Storm keeps sticking to it throughout the issue.


    Storm uses the truth as a weapon against Tarn’s lies and as a progression to keep her going on the path. What no one tells anyone while experiencing an NDE is that if one is to accomplish the goal of evolving from it one must always be willing to be true. Storm isn’t just speaking the truth, she is the TRUTH. I mean that literally, Storm could lie, but it would get in the way of her finding Max and devalue her soul. The bardo’s purpose is for the journeyperson to see the totality of themselves and realize they are worthy of love and mercy. Storm doesn’t completely see herself that way and Max can’t see himself that way. Storm as the spirit guide is there to show him but first she must embrace it herself. That’s what this journey is about.

    Al Ewing has been using Storm casually taking out enemies to tell a story. Unlike the feats folks, her actions are an elevation of her character not the totality of it. She’s not just doing this to demonstrate her power. Lightning is a symbol. What does it represent? Clarity, power, direction, defense, the way to the truth. Storm’s use of it is a union between her and the truth. It’s her will manifest as her intention to never veer away from her goal. Why is that important in an NDE?

    She will never find Max without that commitment; she will die or be pulled from her quest without it. The truth is her shield to protect from true death. Everything there except Ashake is designed to pull her away from being the truth and her commitment to her mission. Her evolution and ability to survive is at stake. She doesn’t have the luxury to focus on anything else. Every thought is a meditation to focus back on the mission of redeeming Max and evolving herself. She doesn’t fully know that yet. Ashake is there to get her to see that even as an evolved being she still must submit to the will of the universe. The universe itself is there to aid her in her quest but Storm must confront her fears of being vulnerable. Ashake scares Storm because Storm sees that Ashake is more spiritually mature than her. She initially hesitates to tell her about why she’s there. Why? Storm doesn’t think she’s good enough to warrant that level of love and support from a heavenly avatar. Anyone who has had an NDE feels the same way. They all need comfort and reassurance. Ashake provides both. Storm realizes quite early that her thoughts are naked there so she doesn’t need to lie and Ashake wouldn’t let her anyway. She’s there to help but before Storm can even say the truth out loud. Ashake does. That’s a pivotal moment because that builds the trust Storm needs to decide to confront and fully be herself.It forges the will and embraces the truth to go onto the next phase of her quest. The Tower
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    Quote Originally Posted by SugarMan View Post
    Probably because you're not used to her being written properly.




    Well, in my opinion, Ororo's best stories are LifeDeath I and II in which she had no powers at all.
    So I strongly disagree with you.

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    Another masterclass from Al Ewing. The way he tackles such a convoluted story and shrouds it in continuity, makes it connect to the current goings of the X-Line AND continues to grow Storm as the biggest winner of the Krakoa Era....my god.

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    Marvel on Xwitter:

    On Krakoa, resurrection from the dead was as easy as completing a circuit – but Krakoa has fallen.

    The time of easy miracles is over, as Storm begins her quest to bring Magneto back to life! ‘Resurrection of Magneto’ #1 is on sale now.

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    So, Mags is the Hanged Man. Could be what Hickman planned on the tarot cards before he left to reboot Ultimate universe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudicatorPrime View Post
    The eyebrow raising part, though, was when Storm indicated that she was aware of the breakup between Adam and Monica Rambeau. Who knew the goddess had time for idle gossip?
    I mean, the superhero community running on gossip, favours and old grudges is an established fact shared by the Big Two. And since corporate or editorial seems to have put its foot down on halting antagonism between the x-book characters and the rest of Marvel since the first Gala, it’s stands to reason they are gossiping with each other again

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    Quote Originally Posted by king of hybrids View Post
    I mean, the superhero community running on gossip, favours and old grudges is an established fact shared by the Big Two. And since corporate or editorial seems to have put its foot down on halting antagonism between the x-book characters and the rest of Marvel since the first Gala, it’s stands to reason they are gossiping with each other again
    I'm just hoping to see Monica and Storm have a girl's night out. No need for secondhand details or speculative insight, just sistas speaking on their relationships in real-time. And if they get to put down a big baddie or two in the process, well, all the better.

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    So one thing about the Dominions showing up is that A) it may give options for future mutant-machine interactions in the fact that while the highest form of machine evolution unpleasantly chewed up and spat out both Storm and Magneto, they are not seemingly hostile to mutants on the grounds of being mutants and B) they don’t appear particularly happy about Enigma’s presence (probably hogging the bandwidth) which may help the X-Men and their allies

    Another thought is that since Engima skipped all the evolutionary steps between basic AI and Dominion, he can’t ’fall back’ to Stronghold, Titan or Phalanx/Worldmind form if it takes enough battering (not that they could, because it would probably involve falling into linear* space time and have the Beyonders and Abtracts come down on him like a ton of bricks.

    *From Ewings end of thing sit seems like Enigma has only gotten this far because the safeguard against this form of atemporal/non-linear attack (the Black Engine) was left unmanned by Knull from the moment of creation

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