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    Default Was Earth 167 a good ending for Smallville?

    So, spinning off from the thread about Welling and Rosenbaum wanting to do more Smallville stuff, this is something that's been bugging me ever since it aired. Do you think the Arrowverse's COIE ending for Smallville a good ending for the franchise? Speaking for myself, I would say no. I watched the show from beginning to end to wait for him to become Superman. Which we saw all of two seconds of. I also read the spinoff comic. So if we follow the path from the show through the comic to the ending seen in COIE, he was Superman for less than a decade. COIE aired in 2019. And it's implied his daughters are at least toddlers by that point. Which means he was maybe Superman for five years-ish. This bothers a lot of fans of the show as a waste. A show that lasted longer than his actual career as Superman.

    To be fair, a lot of people don't consider Earth 167 to be the "official" Smallville universe. Myself included. For a number of continuity related reasons. Not the least of which being that he already went through a version of COIE in the comic with it's own set of Monitors and Anti-Monitor. Neither does the Smallville Wiki on Fandome. For what that's worth. There is also Smallville's problematic real world history. Which might hurt doing anything with it further. And WB has made it clear that they are solely focused on Gunn's vision going forward. There is also the passage of time issue. The show has been off the air for over a decade now. The comic has been out of circulation for nearly a decade. Any plans for a spinoff cartoon seem to be dead if they went anywhere at all. Which means the door may be permanently shut on the Smallville universe altogether at this point. Given this possibility, would you consider Earth 167 to be a good ending for the franchise?
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    I hated it. The whole premise of Smallville was Clark embracing his destiny as Superman. Then, in one clip, Arrowverse did away with all of that.

    And a Clark who quits being Superman when Lex Luthor is still President? That's not the Superman I know.

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    It was a cute cameo and I loved seeing them again. That's as much as I thought about it, to be honest.
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    It fit for that take on Clark but I don't mind a Smallville sequel reversing it by having Clark reemerge as Superman after a period of absence.

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    I loved it..it was a great send off.
    Quote Originally Posted by kingaliencracker View Post
    I hated it. The whole premise of Smallville was Clark embracing his destiny as Superman. Then, in one clip, Arrowverse did away with all of that.

    And a Clark who quits being Superman when Lex Luthor is still President? That's not the Superman I know.
    The whole premise of the show was coming of age of one mr.kent from smallville.iT was never about caprd superhero superman.Destiny was never his choice.Lex in that universe isn't exactly world ending enemy he was destined to fight.They were both put in to those positions.Clark doesn't need powers that goes away at the sight of green rock.If need be clark can take on the guy without it.the show made it a point to have clark question his messiah complex via lex
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    I doubt Smallville is ever coming back, so this ending sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DABellWrites View Post
    I doubt Smallville is ever coming back, so this ending sucks.
    This is my position. I don't think Warners has any intention of ever touching it again.
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