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    Quote Originally Posted by useridgoeshere View Post
    I took Lorna’s small smile as a reaction to the genocidal monster’s reference of and reliance on Blightswill. Orchis is still so sure of themselves that they’ll get to murder more Mutants. It’s no different than I’ve seen in a ton of movies where the arrogant villain thinks they have the upper hand and the hero gives them a nasty surprise that they can make plans, too, like Bruce Willis having a gun taped to his back.

    Lorna’s like, “Blightswill? To me … my Brood”. I love seeing Nazis get their comeuppance.
    That's how I read it. "She'll have to lower her force-field when the mutants board. Load the Blightswill rounds." She responds with a "you arrogant fools" smirk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JB View Post
    That's how I read it. "She'll have to lower her force-field when the mutants board. Load the Blightswill rounds." She responds with a "you arrogant fools" smirk.
    Well, this wouldn't be the first time Lorna became unhinged and leapped without thinking things through...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psych1c View Post
    ...

    You are correct, I don't know and I hope I'm wrong about the outcome. So far we have her arriving with a smirk on her face and unleashing the Brood. Now I know Lorna is not too fond of humans, I'm just hoping for a little mercy coming from her.
    One does not have to hope for what is already on the page.

    Lorna starts things off by saying -

    You Could Run, You Know...
    That means two things...

    First, she will allow them the chance to run.

    Second, she will still give them a fighting chance once they decide to attempt to murder her after being given a chance to run for their lives.

    That "Little Mercy..." you hare hoping for?

    She showed it. Orchis were too dumb to take the out.

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    The giant head thing was eating the space station, it’s not like they could actually run anywhere, lol.

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    Yes, she allowed them to run. Yes, she could deflect the bullets and kill them all. Yes, they were trying to kill her. She could easily disarm and knock them all out if she wanted to, she doesn't need to unleash the brood to eat them. As I said before, nothing against responding to all the attacks they've been getting for so long, but I still think there shouldn't be cruelty, as in people being devoured alive. I think there's - or should be - a difference between being a hero, or sort of, and being a villain.

    Am I saying Lorna is a hero or a villain? No, I don't know that much about her background, I only know she's suffered a lot and has a lot of trauma to deal with. Maybe her smirk is not about enjoyment but some other emotion as somebody suggested, I don't know. I'm giving an opinion on what I understand from some panels. I'm glad she's getting her spotlight, she's taking action against Orchis and probably has her motives to act the way she is. Do I think it's right the way it's being executed? No. Feel free to disagree.

    I really don't like Moira. She killed my favorite character (Jean) but I still do not feel good when I remember Destiny asking Pyro to slowly burn her. In fact, I despise Destiny for what she did to Moira. And as much as I don't like Destiny, I also wouldn't feel good if I saw her being devoured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psych1c View Post
    Yes, she allowed them to run. Yes, she could deflect the bullets and kill them all. Yes, they were trying to kill her. She could easily disarm and knock them all out if she wanted to, she doesn't need to unleash the brood to eat them. As I said before, nothing against responding to all the attacks they've been getting for so long, but I still think there shouldn't be cruelty, as in people being devoured alive. I think there's - or should be - a difference between being a hero, or sort of, and being a villain.

    Am I saying Lorna is a hero or a villain? No, I don't know that much about her background, I only know she's suffered a lot and has a lot of trauma to deal with. Maybe her smirk is not about enjoyment but some other emotion as somebody suggested, I don't know. I'm giving an opinion on what I understand from some panels. I'm glad she's getting her spotlight, she's taking action against Orchis and probably has her motives to act the way she is. Do I think it's right the way it's being executed? No. Feel free to disagree.

    I really don't like Moira. She killed my favorite character (Jean) but I still do not feel good when I remember Destiny asking Pyro to slowly burn her. In fact, I despise Destiny for what she did to Moira. And as much as I don't like Destiny, I also wouldn't feel good if I saw her being devoured.


    The mutants have stormed Orchis multiple times and almost every time they've been killed off. We saw that the first time in House of X. Inferno lays those out and they kept failing. Its a bit naive to think she could just go in there, play nice and not get killed. Mind you without the Brood, she's by herself. Also mind you the resurrection protocols are off the table so she doent have the security that previous teams had when trying this. Could she disarm them? Yes but I also think she's not trying to be caught off guard by something unexpected. Anti-mutant tech exists and we've seen that being used this era (New Mutants showed an inhibitor bomb deployed). Lorna isnt taking any risks. She cant afford failure right now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psych1c View Post
    Yes, she allowed them to run. Yes, she could deflect the bullets and kill them all. Yes, they were trying to kill her. She could easily disarm and knock them all out if she wanted to, she doesn't need to unleash the brood to eat them. As I said before, nothing against responding to all the attacks they've been getting for so long, but I still think there shouldn't be cruelty, as in people being devoured alive. I think there's - or should be - a difference between being a hero, or sort of, and being a villain.
    If it was that easy, Mutants wouldn’t be being easily slaughtered by Orchis. You heard the Orchis goons. They kept attacking her because they know Mutants are no threat. The guards would massacrre them all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psych1c View Post
    Yes, she allowed them to run. Yes, she could deflect the bullets and kill them all. Yes, they were trying to kill her. She could easily disarm and knock them all out if she wanted to, she doesn't need to unleash the brood to eat them. As I said before, nothing against responding to all the attacks they've been getting for so long, but I still think there shouldn't be cruelty, as in people being devoured alive. I think there's - or should be - a difference between being a hero, or sort of, and being a villain.

    Am I saying Lorna is a hero or a villain? No, I don't know that much about her background, I only know she's suffered a lot and has a lot of trauma to deal with. Maybe her smirk is not about enjoyment but some other emotion as somebody suggested, I don't know. I'm giving an opinion on what I understand from some panels. I'm glad she's getting her spotlight, she's taking action against Orchis and probably has her motives to act the way she is. Do I think it's right the way it's being executed? No. Feel free to disagree.
    Lorna’s powers jack her up like speed. When combined with trauma she starts really letting loose, but she does even in such instances give her enemy fair warning.

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    I'm really glad to know the history of mutant attempts to take on Orchis. That's something I wouldn't otherwise know because I haven't read X-Men books aside from the ones good for Lorna.

    Knowing that context really enhances understanding of the story - regardless of how it goes. If Lorna fails, I now understand that it's actually the norm for many mutants including her father, so failing wouldn't be a slight to her character. And if she succeeds, then she's pulling off something that other mutants couldn't manage after multiple attempts.

    Lorna succeeding of course would be great, and I'd love that as a fan of her. She has many instances in her history being written as failing, but most of those cases were due to writers treating her like a plot device or punching bag instead of a character. I think she's overdue for a moment of triumph that can be celebrated, especially in juxtaposition to the Genoshan genocide. It's growth.

    However, if she fails, that's fine too - as long as the key of respecting her as a character comes through. Which I think Duggan's done so far and I have no reason to think otherwise would happen here. It's very possible for a character to lose and still be depicted respectfully and admirably in the process.


    On another note, I've glimpsed here and there on the conversation going on in this thread about the X-Men and philosophy and whatnot. I don't think I can speak much on the very broad, grand scheme of things perspective of the X-Men and all of its characters. I think I'd need to do a much deeper and more expansive dive to say much.

    However, I can say that what Lorna's doing right now is perfectly in character for her. And what she's doing doesn't make her "crazy" or "evil." Those are descriptors I can certainly see Orchis, their supporters, and various propagandists for their side using to describe her in the future. But with Lorna's history, her personality, who she was meant to be when she was created, all of this is perfectly fitting for her.

    She's had multiple traumas due to being a mutant. She survived the Genoshan genocide, and failed to save its people. As far as she knows right now, her father is dead and a majority of mutants that could fight back aren't available for one reason or another - after another genocide. This is absolutely the kind of situation where she would step up to the plate and unleash hell, both out of personal drive and from recognizing this situation desperately needs her putting her best foot forward. If this situation isn't one where she cuts loose, then what situation would it take?
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    So excited!

    Happy to see the all this love Lorna is getting. From Duggan, and the fans!

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    Jesus CHRIST, this isn't how a hero should behave! I'm so tired of--

    Oh, **** it, it's Orchis. Go, Brood, go! EAT WELL, MY DARLINGS!

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    I don't mean to kill everyone's buzz, but am I the only one getting the vibe that Duggan is setting up Lorna to die in this issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dante Milton View Post
    I don't mean to kill everyone's buzz, but am I the only one getting the vibe that Duggan is setting up Lorna to die in this issue?
    Nope.

    Orchis has been an invincible villain for nearly five years now. It's time for them to go. Getting in a last minute "Bwahaha!" killshot on Lorna would be worse than dumb. It would be pointless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dante Milton View Post
    I don't mean to kill everyone's buzz, but am I the only one getting the vibe that Duggan is setting up Lorna to die in this issue?
    If she dies i hope she is able to majorly cripple Orchis. Dont let her die in vain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dante Milton View Post
    I don't mean to kill everyone's buzz, but am I the only one getting the vibe that Duggan is setting up Lorna to die in this issue?
    I’m not, but I also wouldn’t be surprised if she did.

    That said, this is the first time in a while that I DON’T feel like Lorna’s being given a moment just so the X-books have cover to screw her over shortly after. That was a very blatant, predictable pattern, but I don’t feel those vibes this time.
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