Who are the Darkforce wielders of the Marvel Universe?

[Lonewolf36]

Let's just say that my theory is that his identity is shrouded in mystery...

Ok we on the same page then as to who it is. I would say you are most likely right!

[DigiCom]

Ok we on the same page then as to who it is. I would say you are most likely right!

Yeah, said character wasn't even in my top 3 before VotMK #2, but the circumstantial evidence in that issue, combined with the Blood Hunt preview, make it highly likely.

[Lonewolf36]

Yeah, said character wasn't even in my top 3 before VotMK #2, but the circumstantial evidence in that issue, combined with the Blood Hunt preview, make it highly likely.

I do agree 100 percent!

[jwatson]

Don't know if it was posted but DarkVeil. Darkforce teleportation.

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Darne...th-616)#Powers


lol squeezed in the first post. ^_^.

[Lonewolf36]

Don't know if it was posted but DarkVeil. Darkforce teleportation.

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Darne...th-616)#Powers


lol squeezed in the first post. ^_^.

I like Darkveil and remembered!

[jwatson]

I like Darkveil and remembered!

I think we are the only two that remember her. lmao.

[Lonewolf36]

I think we are the only two that remember her. lmao.

She been seen in a couple cameos since her introduction. You seem to be right though.

[Pav]

So, despite what later stories have established, I've long been of the belief that the original intent for both Dusk and SHOC was the Negative Zone serving as the source of their powers rather than the Darkforce Dimension.

Both SHOC and the original Dusk were creations of Howard Mackie, who was doing a weird amount of Negative Zone stories for a Spider-Man comic. If I remember correctly, a specific issue establishes 1) that the unseen ORIGINAL original Dusk was a NZ freedom fighter; and 2) SHOC was drawn to the very portal that transported Spidey to the NZ in the first place -- trying to save some local youths, I think.

The powersource of Dusk from the Slingers was purposefully left open-ended at the end of the original series, but I'd like to think there was some connection between Cassie and the original Dusk.

-Pav, who won't acknowledge the Webspinners follow-up story in which Spidey rescues the "original" alien Dusk...

[The Cool Thatguy]

So, despite what later stories have established, I've long been of the belief that the original intent for both Dusk and SHOC was the Negative Zone serving as the source of their powers rather than the Darkforce Dimension.

Both SHOC and the original Dusk were creations of Howard Mackie, who was doing a weird amount of Negative Zone stories for a Spider-Man comic. If I remember correctly, a specific issue establishes 1) that the unseen ORIGINAL original Dusk was a NZ freedom fighter; and 2) SHOC was drawn to the very portal that transported Spidey to the NZ in the first place -- trying to save some local youths, I think.

The powersource of Dusk from the Slingers was purposefully left open-ended at the end of the original series, but I'd like to think there was some connection between Cassie and the original Dusk.

-Pav, who won't acknowledge the Webspinners follow-up story in which Spidey rescues the "original" alien Dusk...

Wait, there was a Webspinners story where Spidey saves the original Dusk?

[K7P5V]

What dark force powers does moon knight have?

All they need is Firestar to stop the dark force. Her powers actively scramble the stuff. But it probably won't get mentioned....

Yeah! Too bad about Firestar not being involved. Personally, it would've brought back a lot of nostalgic feelings/memories...

Wait, there was a Webspinners story where Spidey saves the original Dusk?

Indeed. For proof, check out Webspinners #13 & #14 (XD)

[Pav]

Wait, there was a Webspinners story where Spidey saves the original Dusk?

Indeed. For proof, check out Webspinners #13 & #14 (XD)

Or don't check it out. Personally, I thought it really flopped as a follow-up to an EXCELLENT single-issue story of Peter diving into the Negative Zone to save some teens; taking on the identity of Dusk to lead an army of freedom fighters against Blastaar; and getting back to Earth with the teens and the Dusk costume. It was an action-packed, semi-serious issue, and the "fake" Dusk that Peter met was shrouded in mystery and intrigue, as was the mystery of where the "real" Dusk was.

The Webspinners follow-up had Peter randomly finding the "real" Dusk out in the Distortion Zone, and the whole storyline was played for laughs. Plus it had the nonsensical return of Carnage via Kletus finding a symbiote in the Negative Zone. It had NONE of the gravitas and intrigue of that original issue.

My head canon is that the Dusk that was found in the Negative Zone was really just another lieutenant of the real Dusk, and that Cassie St. Commons is the daughter of the real Dusk, who spirited her away to Earth for her own safety. Her dad? The Ranger, a minor antagonist from the John Byrne era of Spidey comics.

-Pav, who also thinks Cassie must be some Negative Zone Phoenix -type entity based on how she uses her powers in Slingers #12...

[Lonewolf36]

Let's just say that my theory is that his identity is shrouded in mystery...

Spot on!!!

[marhawkman]

-Pav, who also thinks Cassie must be some Negative Zone Phoenix -type entity based on how she uses her powers in Slingers #12...

Does the Goblin Force exist in 616 yet?

[nx01a]

The list of Lightforce users is pretty short. Pity.

[Aarkus]

The list of Lightforce users is pretty short. Pity.

2/3 of that list is multiversal variants of Dagger, or, versions of Cloak from timelines where their powers were swapped!

in fairness tho, I could envision it being the more difficult of the two forces to control.
something along the lines of, it's easy to give in to darkness, but to stay in the light requires a certain level of internal fortitude or whatever....