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    Quote Originally Posted by master of read View Post
    he wasn't actively trying to get out of the asylum. he could've escaped when he did what he did to that nurse but he didn't.

    lecter doesn't make monsters. he manipulates them.

    and just to show how damn charming he can be.....

    What do you mean he could've escaped but didn't? Is that in the book or show because it's not In the movie

    Whan has he ever manipulated anyone who is a danger to a whole city?

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    Quote Originally Posted by master of read View Post
    he thinks himself a character from a children's book written over 100 years ago.

    lecter would have a field day with him.
    mad hatter literally controls people's minds not just with hats he he made mind control coffee 1 time he talks in rhym he believes he is from wonder land do you know how crazy that book is? Wtf is lecter supposed to do with that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildling View Post
    I'm saying he can do this because this facility is not going to deep lock him because they have bigger issues to deal with. Do you think Poison Ivy and Clayface and whoever else are going to be the ones keeping an eye on him? That's going to be the average joes staff, and Lecter would be more than qualified to get into their heads.
    Based on what? Zsasz wasn't as big a name as Poison Ivy and Clayface yet he was locked up just the same as far as I know all of Arkham is maximum security

    Also he didn't really get in the heads of anyone in the jail he was In at least not anuff to make any real difference.

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    I don't see Lecter having a problem. As long as he doesn't wear a costume. He could probably get close enough to some of the rogues to kill them. Not in a fair fight but by blending in and being sneaky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by choptop View Post
    mad hatter literally controls people's minds not just with hats he he made mind control coffee 1 time he talks in rhym he believes he is from wonder land do you know how crazy that book is? Wtf is lecter supposed to do with that?
    feed into his delusions by pretending to be a character from the book, since he is very well read. he once tricked a guy into eating hallucinogens and then making him cut off his own face, feed it to dogs and then getting him to eating his own nose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by choptop View Post
    What do you mean he could've escaped but didn't? Is that in the book or show because it's not In the movie

    Whan has he ever manipulated anyone who is a danger to a whole city?
    as mentioned, he manipulated the tooth fairy into going after the guy who caught him. a guy who killed entire families for his own personal delusions. the point is that lecter has a history of messing with folks who aren't mentally stable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by master of read View Post
    as mentioned, he manipulated the tooth fairy into going after the guy who caught him. a guy who killed entire families for his own personal delusions. the point is that lecter has a history of messing with folks who aren't mentally stable.
    This is true. He is an absolute master at understanding abnormal psychology while his own is inscrutable. If he managed to get some fake credentials, he could easily convince the Arkham staff to place him on staff by wowing them with his insights. He'd offer the Gotham PD consultancy too, get in good with Gordon and the rest. It's the perfect roll for him in a crossover event.

    Hannibal could even get close to Bats, help him with cases, like he does with Will Graham—although on the other end, Hannibal might have been the one who manipulated the criminal in the first place.

    This would make for a great crossover movie or miniseries event. Add it to the ones we'll never see—a long, long list as we all know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shai-Hulud View Post
    This is true. He is an absolute master at understanding abnormal psychology while his own is inscrutable. If he managed to get some fake credentials, he could easily convince the Arkham staff to place him on staff by wowing them with his insights. He'd offer the Gotham PD consultancy too, get in good with Gordon and the rest. It's the perfect roll for him in a crossover event.

    Hannibal could even get close to Bats, help him with cases, like he does with Will Graham—although on the other end, Hannibal might have been the one who manipulated the criminal in the first place.

    This would make for a great crossover movie or miniseries event. Add it to the ones we'll never see—a long, long list as we all know.
    he would find kindship with bruce, after figuring out who he is. for those who dont know, lecter was of Lithuanian nobility, up until the nazi bombed his home, killing nearly his entire family, save for himself and his younger sister. then later on, he and his sister were captured and she was killed and eaten in front of him. so it would fascinate him to see how someone who suffered a similar tragedy to him handled his own traumas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shai-Hulud View Post
    This is true. He is an absolute master at understanding abnormal psychology while his own is inscrutable. If he managed to get some fake credentials, he could easily convince the Arkham staff to place him on staff by wowing them with his insights. He'd offer the Gotham PD consultancy too, get in good with Gordon and the rest. It's the perfect roll for him in a crossover event.

    Hannibal could even get close to Bats, help him with cases, like he does with Will Graham—although on the other end, Hannibal might have been the one who manipulated the criminal in the first place.

    This would make for a great crossover movie or miniseries event. Add it to the ones we'll never see—a long, long list as we all know.
    Hannibal doesn’t want his presence known to Batman. Bruce would read him like a book. His best bet is not even Arkham. He’s better off just picking off the tons of homeless people in Gotham. People no one would notice is missing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by choptop View Post
    Based on what? Zsasz wasn't as big a name as Poison Ivy and Clayface yet he was locked up just the same as far as I know all of Arkham is maximum security

    Also he didn't really get in the heads of anyone in the jail he was In at least not anuff to make any real difference.
    Out of all people, I remember it being brought up that Zsasz sneaked in and out of Arkham to carry out murders.

    And Lecter was "chummy", or at least had a sense of mutual respect, with one of the guards watching him despite how he broke his arm to get him away from the nurse he maimed. He has too much class for blind vengeance... unless it was about his sister I guess. He carried out a young movie Magneto hunt then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by master of read View Post
    feed into his delusions by pretending to be a character from the book, since he is very well read. he once tricked a guy into eating hallucinogens and then making him cut off his own face, feed it to dogs and then getting him to eating his own nose.
    Key word being (hallucinogens) really not as impressive if drugs are Involved.

    Anyway I really don't see what effect pretending to be a character from wonder land is going to do I mean do you think lecter is going to dress up as the queen of harts and order MH to eat he's own face? Even if he did MH doesn't follow the hierarchy of the book he is in control

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    Quote Originally Posted by master of read View Post
    as mentioned, he manipulated the tooth fairy into going after the guy who caught him. a guy who killed entire families for his own personal delusions. the point is that lecter has a history of messing with folks who aren't mentally stable.
    That's cool 1 time mad hatter literally turned a guy into a real Jabberwocky just to prove a point....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildling View Post
    Out of all people, I remember it being brought up that Zsasz sneaked in and out of Arkham to carry out murders.

    And Lecter was "chummy", or at least had a sense of mutual respect, with one of the guards watching him despite how he broke his arm to get him away from the nurse he maimed. He has too much class for blind vengeance... unless it was about his sister I guess. He carried out a young movie Magneto hunt then.
    There was a Secret passage Zsasz somehow nee about or something.

    So again there's nothing saying could've escaped but didn't?

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    Quote Originally Posted by choptop View Post
    Key word being (hallucinogens) really not as impressive if drugs are Involved.
    The point is you have to prove a guy mentally stuck in a decades old story with childish undertones isn't going to be susceptible to psychological manipulation, especially if drugs are involved. That's the first thing I'd ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by choptop View Post
    There was a Secret passage Zsasz somehow nee about or something.
    That's not how I remember it being described, or can you elaborate or post scans?

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