View Poll Results: If DC Kills the New 52 - Which Continuity Should Return?

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  • Pre-Crisis

    54 15.25%
  • Post-Crisis

    110 31.07%
  • Neither - Start over!

    85 24.01%
  • Im fine with it the way it is

    105 29.66%
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    U Got Me Str8 Trippin Boo nj06's Avatar
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    Can someone provide a brief summary of what happened to the Earth-2 characters/universe introduced in the DCnU 52? What happened to characters like Val-Zod, Aquawoman (Marella), Hawkgirl, and Alan Scott?
    We are the Dora Milaje. We are the daughters of the 18 tribes of Wakanda. We are the teeth of the Panther God. Out of 10,000 years of sweat and bloodshed and battle are we born. We are the women of this ancient land. Deadliest of the species. And our time has come!

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    Their Earth got rebooted as a dieselpunk setting; several key Wonders managed to survive the reboot and continue on in the rebooted Earth. The series ended shortly thereafter with the formation of a Justice Society on Earth 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nj06 View Post
    Can someone provide a brief summary of what happened to the Earth-2 characters/universe introduced in the DCnU 52? What happened to characters like Val-Zod, Aquawoman (Marella), Hawkgirl, and Alan Scott?
    The series you want to remember is Convergence.

    Spoiler: Then came Earth 2 Society, about how life continued on Earth 2's Earth 2. No, I'm not being redundant. Earth is gone, and humanity has settled on another planet. As for what happened to its heroes, some are still there, I think. Khalid has been seen on Prime Earth in Justice League Dark lately.

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    Elaborating on what I said: the final two issues of Earth 2: Society rebooted Earth 2's Earth two from the post-Apocalyptic nightmare it had become over the course of Earth 2: World's End, Convergence, and Earth 2: Society. In keeping with the “Earth 2” theme, the Wonders refer to this rebooted reality as their “second chance”; and when last we saw them, they were busy doing everything they could to protect it.

    That said, most if not all of the Wonders are still on their new Earth 2: Superman (Val-Zod), Batman (Helena Wayne), Robin (John Grayson), Oracle (Dick Grayson), Hawkgirl, Flash, Green Lantern, Red Tornado (Lois Lane), Steel, and Kara are all seen in the final panels of the final issue sitting around a meeting table and strategizing about what threats are out there and how they're going to deal with them.

    I haven't been following JLD, so I don't know much about the Dr.Fate that's been appearing there. Unless something's been revealed that I don't know about, I suppose it's possible that he's Earth 2's Dr. Fate. That said, DC has pretty much been ignoring Earth 2 ever since Earth 2 Society ended; so I'll be surprised to learn that he's from Earth 2.

    Likewise: with the return of the primary Earth's Justice Society, I suspect that we're not going to be seeing Earth 2 any time soon. In particular, when and if Kara Zor-L returns, I suspect that she'll be the pre-Flashpoint Power Girl, not the Earth 2 version we saw in N52: as I said, that one's busy on Earth 2.
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    E2S 16 (20).jpgThis is the last we saw of E2K. When the Pandora box was opened in Society. His name is Khalid Ben-Hassin. The one in JLD is Khalid Nassour. Apparently DC thought that, since Nassour wasn't being used in the New52, they would use him as a template for Earth 2's Fate. Wasn't confusing until the original Khalid from Prime Earth popped up in JLD to confound us all. Not as Fate, though. That was still (again?) Kent Nelson. And not blind this time (which would have made clear his identity, I suppose).

    All right, all right, already. I will finally admit it. New 52, as entertaining as I found it, really was a bit of a mind-f... wasn't it? Researching this was an hour of my life I'll never get back.

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    Im still collecting new52 to books . Just got another dozen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NexusTenebrare View Post
    Except the New52 fans aren't whining about it nearly as much as you pre-n52 fans were. You don't see us filling up every thread on this and other DC-related boards with crying for what we lost.
    As for being treated better. DC literally put out a book calling our favorite continuity loveless, lacking in legacy, etc., etc. and used it to restore (however badly botched) your precious continuity.
    A lot of accuracy here. I remember being bullied on here for supporting the New 52. Gatekeepers are something else. It just made me love the new 52 even more, still do. It wasnít the mistake that internet fanboys would lead you to believe.
    Imagine being proud to have negative traits. I canít relate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raijin View Post
    A lot of accuracy here. I remember being bullied on here for supporting the New 52. Gatekeepers are something else. It just made me love the new 52 even more, still do. It wasn’t the mistake that internet fanboys would lead you to believe.
    You have my support, Raijin.
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    Considering Rebirth hasn’t exactly caught on and all, I’m all for either restoring the Post-Flashpoint or reboot and start over.
    Last edited by Rod G; 04-26-2020 at 01:16 AM.
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    DC: Not much these days, but being cautiously optimistic for Shazam! (2018-2019) and Young Justice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rod G View Post
    Considering Rebirth hasn’t exactly caught on and all, I’m all for either restoring the Post-Flashpoint or reboot and start over.
    What do you base this statement on???


    A Remarkable Success
    "Rebirth" has proved to be one of the most remarkable successes in comic book history. By August 2016, overall comic book sales had risen to a 20-year peak; they've since dropped, but DC's sales remain healthy.

    Source: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...VWd3S-nbadQ9C_

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    Quote Originally Posted by Menacer View Post
    What do you base this statement on???


    A Remarkable Success
    "Rebirth" has proved to be one of the most remarkable successes in comic book history. By August 2016, overall comic book sales had risen to a 20-year peak; they've since dropped, but DC's sales remain healthy.

    Source: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...VWd3S-nbadQ9C_
    For three months.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rod G View Post
    For three months.
    So it peaked and then leveled off to a normal dc sells levels? I wouldn't say thats a failure...

    Major sustained readership growth of a brand takes more then some event or soft reboot...

    Exactly how you get more people reading in general and more specifically reading dc superhero books is a mystery...


    Why kids are leaning towards manga or Japanese oriented media i have no idea. When i was a kid pokemon hit it big... i couldnt be bothered by any of it, it was the little kid stuff... i was into dc...

    Fact is trends with kids are how you increase readers over long term and for some reason kids don't think superheroes are cool.

    They grow up really fast ... dc has to find a way to appeal to that crowd and bring them in.

    other kinds of content, notably kid-oriented fare and Japanese (or Japanese-inspired) manga.

    Forbes analyzes this sales matter further.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/robsalk...heroes-behind/


    Fact is the last big event or next big event wont change things. Its bit more complicated then that





    ... hope dc comes up with some answers

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