Buried Alien - THE FASTEST POST ALIVE!
First CBR Appearance (Historical): November, 1996
First CBR Appearance (Modern): April, 2014
Me too. I'm glad you didn't say you were going to Marvel because they are both the same beast.
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We have a departure song for Darrin.
Buried Alien (The Fastest Post Alive!)
Buried Alien - THE FASTEST POST ALIVE!
First CBR Appearance (Historical): November, 1996
First CBR Appearance (Modern): April, 2014
That sums up most of my problems in a nutshell. While I've come to like several New52 books now (Batwoman, Batgirl, Green Arrow now that it has a good creative team behind it), I've always had 3 main prolems:
1. they had just finished setting up new arcs, or were in the middle of new story arcs in the previous continuity that got cut off abruptly with the relaunch;
2. Characters I loved were either no longer around at all (Stephanie and Cassandra) or changed so radically that I no longer recognized or even liked them (Tim Drake);
and 3: the selective nature of the reboot. AlexanderLutor makes a valid point- how do you reintroduce and iconic character like Batman without the history behind him? How do you explain Damian as Robin without Dick Grayson being where Robin first came from? But the problem now is that Bruce had 4 Robins in five years, and that made no sense.
I've grown accustomed to the New52. I can even say I've grown to love some of it. But I will never stop missing the characters I loved.
All of that being said, i was with my best friend this weekend, and she wants to get into the X-Men comics and was looking for a good place to start. And that's when the sheer logic of the New52 hit me- with over 50 years of X-Men comics, where do you start? and I actually found myself starting to recommend some New52 titles, because it would be easier for her as a new reader to get into rather than wading through hundreds of back issues so you can figure out just how many times Jan Grey died.
Marvel would probably like to point your friend to newest #1 as starting point. But honestly Marvel has kinda got ridiculous with their relaunches, some books even have same creative teams and continue same story as previous volume so picking up #1 is practically same as picking up #39 which is basically same as picking up #325...All of that being said, i was with my best friend this weekend, and she wants to get into the X-Men comics and was looking for a good place to start. And that's when the sheer logic of the New52 hit me- with over 50 years of X-Men comics, where do you start? and I actually found myself starting to recommend some New52 titles, because it would be easier for her as a new reader to get into rather than wading through hundreds of back issues so you can figure out just how many times Jan Grey died.
Yeah X-Men's convoluted history is a turn-off for me, and all the #1's in the world won't change that. I'd only read X-Men again if Marvel did a New 52 style reboot.
At the very least I was hoping Marvel would reset the Ultimate Universe during all that Cataclysm stuff so I could at least read that, but nope.
I've never understood that whole "It's too confusing thing", I've found that generally when you're starting at the start of a new story arc it should be easy enough. I don't like big reboots, I think they're lazy writing but I hate a lot of the editorial decisions DC have made since the reboot. Thing is though, reboot or not those decisions would still have been made and we'd still be getting the same quality (or lack of quality) books.
The old dcu wasn't too confusing. The Marvel verse isn't too confusing. They were/are too convoluted. There's a difference. You can understand something that's convoluted, but that doesn't mean its optimal.
I'm another one of those people who only started collecting outside of collected books since the New 52, although admittedly I was about a year or so slow on the uptake, but even so I still felt as though I could jump in and catch up easily, and now I'm collecting more monthly's than I thought I ever would and loving it
1. Agreed. They should have finished old storylines in the old universe and NOT have them bleed over into the new espeically Batman Incorporated.
2. Agreed. They needed to plan much further ahead than they apparently did and needed a more unified approach. The characters they introduced and re-introduced were ill-concieved and, often, poorly timed.
3. I think that was the purpose of 5 years later. It's a clever idea that solves many issues if done correctly.
We do not need to know everything that happened in the first 5 years; however, they do need to have a fairly accurate understanding what occured in this time period and I don't think TPTB organized their thinking in this area.
I miss my beloved characters also. Maybe the next crisis will clean up some of this mess. (Yeah, right.)
i as well i love in fact. Only a few things i was upset namely about and that no more superboy prime and the change in spectre's origin, but hey it's still a young universe i will get into it. Still i enjoy the new 52 immensely.
Still i do miss cassandra cain, donna troy and the old lucifer though.