View Poll Results: If DC Kills the New 52 - Which Continuity Should Return?

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  • Pre-Crisis

    49 14.45%
  • Post-Crisis

    105 30.97%
  • Neither - Start over!

    83 24.48%
  • Im fine with it the way it is

    102 30.09%
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  1. #1426
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dataweaver View Post
    Sort of like the support groups we pre-n52 fans set up and were belittled for by n52 fans? Go for it. And with any luck, you’ll be treated better than we were.
    This sounds like revisionist history to me.
    Quote Originally Posted by NexusTenebrare View Post
    Except the New52 fans aren't whining about it nearly as much as you pre-n52 fans were. You don't see us filling up every thread on this and other DC-related boards with crying for what we lost.
    As for being treated better. DC literally put out a book calling our favorite continuity loveless, lacking in legacy, etc., etc. and used it to restore (however badly botched) your precious continuity.
    Sounds more like what really went down. The majority opinion for the first few years was a perception that the new universe was a bad thing. People who were willing to give it a chance would chime in to preach open-mindedness, but as I recall the complaints only stopped with Rebirth. And now, finally, a lot of fans are saying that New 52 wasn't all that bad. No one was treated poorly. That's just a way to keep complaining. I'm not calling anyone a whiner, just calling it as I see it.

    To whom it may concern: You got what you wanted. Leave it at that and be happy.
    Last edited by thetrellan; 11-28-2018 at 12:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NexusTenebrare View Post
    Except the New52 fans aren't whining about it nearly as much as you pre-n52 fans were. You don't see us filling up every thread on this and other DC-related boards with crying for what we lost.
    As for being treated better. DC literally put out a book calling our favorite continuity loveless, lacking in legacy, etc., etc. and used it to restore (however badly botched) your precious continuity.
    Tell me something I donít know, Nexus.

    Frankly, Rebirth messed things up, Dark Nights Metal is borderline nihilistic in its grimdarkness and Doomsday Clock is utterly pointless.
    Pull List:
    Marvel: Spider-Man:Renew Your Vows, Champions, Marvel Two-in-One, Fantastic Four (2018), Avengers (2018), Mr and Mrs X, Ironheart
    DC: Not much these days, but being cautiously optimistic for Shazam! (2018-2019) and Young Justice

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAHSIYATSI View Post
    I know this may be a bit of a firestorm. But I like the new 52. I was a marvel reader that got to lost in the complicated story lines. You had to read 5 books to understand the story (ie avengers dissemble, civil war, house of m, planet hulk, secret invasion, dark avengers, Thor, just to understand seige). It was crazy
    Even for those who had no trouble following, that entire period was awful from start to finish. Planet Hulk was good, but stretched the whole "strongest one there is" deal too far, and what followed with WWH was just Hulk porn. We all get it. No one is stronger. Was it really necessary to demonstrate it so blatantly? Plus the AD stuff and everything stemming from it was terrible. Marvel has two universes on one Earth: the world of mutants, driven by hate and fear; and the more respected superheroes. If you were into mutant mania, odds are the other titles didn't quite do it for you. But if you enjoyed something more light hearted, as I do? No way did I want to see the entire MU become the kind of paranoid fare that served the X-heroes so well. Civil War was a terrible move, just awful. I read every series you mentioned, and by 2011 I'd had my fill. Marvel had finally managed the unthinkable. They made me leave.

    They were my mainstay. Quitting them after 40 years of loyalty left me seriously considering giving up comics altogether.

    And if it weren't for the New 52, I would have. Then the nay sayers refused to leave it alone. DC should have stuck to their guns. Really. If fans wanted old lore reestablished, new takes on that lore could and should have been written. It would have been great. Just like having a Zod based on Byrne's vision of Krypton would have been fantastic. All these die-hard fans who couldn't stand change really screwed things up. They refused to see it as a chance to fall in love all over again. Not just for fans with their heroes, but also for Lois and Clark, for Iris and Barry.

    Now we were stuck with Superdad and life lessons for his stupid kid.

    And though he's trying, I don't think Bendis is the one to fix that. He was a huge part of everything that messed up the MU. Superheroes aren't his forte at all. Let him make sweeping changes to the status quo and watch it all fall apart. Hey, I liked the pre-Flashpoint universe too. But there was real value what the New 52 was doing. There was no need to retcon just for Wally's comeback or for Clark and Lois to get together again. You have to know it was going to happen anyway, and would have been all the better for the super-affair having run its course. Now the WW/SM romance is pointless and led nowhere.

    Rant concluded. Letting go now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thetrellan View Post
    Even for those who had no trouble following, that entire period was awful from start to finish. Planet Hulk was good, but stretched the whole "strongest one there is" deal too far, and what followed with WWH was just Hulk porn. We all get it. No one is stronger. Was it really necessary to demonstrate it so blatantly? Plus the AD stuff and everything stemming from it was terrible. Marvel has two universes on one Earth: the world of mutants, driven by hate and fear; and the more respected superheroes. If you were into mutant mania, odds are the other titles didn't quite do it for you. But if you enjoyed something more light hearted, as I do? No way did I want to see the entire MU become the kind of paranoid fare that served the X-heroes so well. Civil War was a terrible move, just awful. I read every series you mentioned, and by 2011 I'd had my fill. Marvel had finally managed the unthinkable. They made me leave.

    They were my mainstay. Quitting them after 40 years of loyalty left me seriously considering giving up comics altogether.

    And if it weren't for the New 52, I would have. Then the nay sayers refused to leave it alone. DC should have stuck to their guns. Really. If fans wanted old lore reestablished, new takes on that lore could and should have been written. It would have been great. Just like having a Zod based on Byrne's vision of Krypton would have been fantastic. All these die-hard fans who couldn't stand change really screwed things up. They refused to see it as a chance to fall in love all over again. Not just for fans with their heroes, but also for Lois and Clark, for Iris and Barry.

    Now we were stuck with Superdad and life lessons for his stupid kid.

    And though he's trying, I don't think Bendis is the one to fix that. He was a huge part of everything that messed up the MU. Superheroes aren't his forte at all. Let him make sweeping changes to the status quo and watch it all fall apart. Hey, I liked the pre-Flashpoint universe too. But there was real value what the New 52 was doing. There was no need to retcon just for Wally's comeback or for Clark and Lois to get together again. You have to know it was going to happen anyway, and would have been all the better for the super-affair having run its course. Now the WW/SM romance is pointless and led nowhere.

    Rant concluded. Letting go now.

    I have to say, that IS putting it mildly.
    Pull List:
    Marvel: Spider-Man:Renew Your Vows, Champions, Marvel Two-in-One, Fantastic Four (2018), Avengers (2018), Mr and Mrs X, Ironheart
    DC: Not much these days, but being cautiously optimistic for Shazam! (2018-2019) and Young Justice

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