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    Sauron with the One Ring vs Gandalf and Saruman

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    He kills them both. It might not be super-easy, but that's how it ends.

    Gandalf the White was more powerful than Saruman, more close to his own full strength as Olórin, and he stated he wasn't as strong as Sauron sans Ring. Sauron with Ring versus Gandalf the White with Saruman is still a loss for the Wizards.

    I mean, the entire point of the Istari being sent back in mortal form with curtailed abilities was to PREVENT them from entering into another war of power (also because it wasn't the Valar's job to deal with Sauron any more, but that's another issue). It kept them from just deciding 'whelp, the easiest way to deal with this is for the three/five* of us to just go kick Sauron's ass, ourselves.' And creating all kinds of havoc and destruction in the doing. Saruman added to Gandalf the White isn't going to make up for Sauron WITH Ring.

    * version depending.
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    Maybe it was Tolkien's religious background and problem of theodicy. Why do bad things happen to good Hobbits? The Tolkien version of the All Mighty could have solved it for the same reasons we haven't seen the Almighty here recently. Turn to Religion 101 for that debate.

    Why didn't Gondor buy some explosives from the Goblins and area bomb Mordor from the Eagles? Hey, that's not a bad idea as compared to dropping the ring into Mount Doom from an Eagle?

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    He may be a relatively poor wizard, but Gandalf was Darn Good at cleaving his way through armies with a big sword.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Smith View Post
    Why didn't Gondor buy some explosives from the Goblins and area bomb Mordor from the Eagles? Hey, that's not a bad idea as compared to dropping the ring into Mount Doom from an Eagle?
    Because Sauron, Dark Lord of Bureaucracy, would find the paper trail through the various departments on his side and notice some of his inventory was missing.

    Drop shipping bombs onto Mordor seems like a good idea until you realize you can't hustle a hustler so easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grampagen View Post
    Because Sauron, Dark Lord of Bureaucracy, would find the paper trail through the various departments on his side and notice some of his inventory was missing.

    Drop shipping bombs onto Mordor seems like a good idea until you realize you can't hustle a hustler so easily.
    A much more amusing answer than the one I started to write. ^_^
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