Why Create A New Character When You Could've Used...?

[Riv86672]

They probably didn't know what to do with Power Girl so they let the writer experiment.

^^^

Yeah, IF you're gonna do new stuff... making a new character could be good.

Like the Phantom Zoners.... Zod doing Zod things makes sense, but if you wanna do non-Zod things... don't use Zod...

^^^Thats what I was trying to say, thank you.

[Rightoya]

Why create Strix when you have Cassandra Cain?

Wasn't that specifically because Gail Simone wanted to have Cassandra Cain in the books but the higher-ups didn't allow her in the Batgirl books, i vaguely remember Gail Simone talking about something like that?

[The Darknight Detective]

Hal brought in a pretty clear difference in premise than Alan; the whole space cop corps and all that came along with it. I don’t think Barry Allen was as big a reinvention as that compared to Jay. I actually don’t know why they didn’t just use the name Jay Garrick again instead of retconning him into being a in universe fictional comic character. But then if that didn’t happen maybe we wouldn’t have the multiverse as such a big part of dc and Superheroes in general; at least maybe not the way it ended up being.

I don't disagree with anything you said. I was just pointing out earlier that there's a difference between creating new characters when there are available ones still being published than characters like Alan and Jay who weren't.

[the illustrious mr. kenway]

Grant Morrison created Zaueriel for their Justice League run because they couldn't use Hawkman. So often times a new character is formed because they can't use an existing one.

[Riv86672]

Grant Morrison created Zaueriel for their Justice League run because they couldn't use Hawkman. So often times a new character is formed because they can't use an existing one.

^^^I've heard the same thing about Morrison’s Willoughby Kipling, as a stand in for John Constantine in Doom Patrol.

[the illustrious mr. kenway]

^^^I've heard the same thing about Morrison’s Willoughby Kipling, as a stand in for John Constantine in Doom Patrol.

Necessity is the mother of invention.

[Riv86672]

Necessity is the mother of invention.

^^^Our need will be the real creator!

[Riv86672]

Would the Watchmen fall under this umbrella?
They were originally supposed to be the Charlton Action Heroes.

[the illustrious mr. kenway]

Would the Watchmen fall under this umbrella?
They were originally supposed to be the Charlton Action Heroes.

Yeah as DC didn't want to poison the Charlton brand. I'm curious how that story would've shaken out had they committed to using them.

Would they end up creating new characters to fill the old mantles?

[RogueWhistler]

^^^I've heard the same thing about Morrison’s Willoughby Kipling, as a stand in for John Constantine in Doom Patrol.

Rasputin in John Ostrander's Firestorm was created/adapted for the same reasons.

[scary harpy]

Would the Watchmen fall under this umbrella?
They were originally supposed to be the Charlton Action Heroes.

Yeah as DC didn't want to poison the Charlton brand. I'm curious how that story would've shaken out had they committed to using them.

Would they end up creating new characters to fill the old mantles?

What would have happened?

Charlton Actions heroes would have been Who's Who instead of Who's That!

Watchmen had a movie and a tv series! Oh, and a somewhat successful graphic novel, too.

Charlton action heroes are obscure also-rans.

Why would they need characters to fill their old roles? DC has 100s of minor characters on the shelf in Limbo.

P.S.

Maybe Alan Moore would still be speaking to DC also.

[scary harpy]

Grant Morrison created Zaueriel for their Justice League run because they couldn't use Hawkman. So often times a new character is formed because they can't use an existing one.

Sadly, yes.

Where is Zauriel now?

Sitting on the shelf in Limbo.

And Hawkman missed a great JLA run.

[Riv86672]

What would have happened?

Charlton Actions heroes would have been Who's Who instead of Who's That!

Watchmen had a movie and a tv series! Oh, and a somewhat successful graphic novel, too.

Charlton action heroes are obscure also-rans.

Why would they need characters to fill their old roles? DC has 100s of minor characters on the shelf in Limbo.

P.S.

Maybe Alan Moore would still be speaking to DC also.

^^^lol, oooookay.

[Agent Z]

What would have happened?

Charlton Actions heroes would have been Who's Who instead of Who's That!

Watchmen had a movie and a tv series! Oh, and a somewhat successful graphic novel, too.

Charlton action heroes are obscure also-rans.

Why would they need characters to fill their old roles? DC has 100s of minor characters on the shelf in Limbo.

P.S.

Maybe Alan Moore would still be speaking to DC also.

Watchmen had a movie that was contentious at best, a tv series that lasted one season and was rather quickly forgotten about (admittedly it wasn't bad at all) and follow ups to the graphic novel that no one liked. The original novel itself is often scapegoats for causing the Dark Age of Comics because of people using it as a blueprint.

The Charlton characters' problems are due to a lack of investment by DC and little presence outside comics. Nightshade at least has her appearances in Suicide Squad and Shadowpact, and Question is still fairly well known thanks to Justice League Unlimited.

[scary harpy]

Watchmen had a movie that was contentious at best, a tv series that lasted one season and was rather quickly forgotten about (admittedly it wasn't bad at all) and follow ups to the graphic novel that no one liked. The original novel itself is often scapegoats for causing the Dark Age of Comics because of people using it as a blueprint.

All true.

Charlton Action heroes have had Zero movies, Zero television series and Zero graphic novels that are famous or infamous. (Peacemaker may be an exception depending on what you think about the show.)

Who's worse off?

...

The Charlton characters' problems are due to a lack of investment by DC and little presence outside comics. ...

DC's lack of investment is standard operating procedure in 99% of it IPs.