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    It's nice to get a Bruce and Dick moment without Alfred.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Lensman View Post
    Dick and Tim have the occasional anger issue, but for a time, Jason WAS a walking, talking, anger issue that occasionally displayed other emotions.
    Not really.

    He had only anger issue at the beginning, when he discovered that Two Face killed his Father, which he overcame within the same story, and close to the end of Starlin's run, leading up to DitF. And it wasn't really like Bruce was that much better during that run (just read Batman #414).

    And considering the cases where that happend I'm not sure the other Robins would have taken that much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The World View Post
    Are people still pushing the ninja turtles narrative with the robins?
    Yeah, and it really sucks. It's going to get worse since WFA is popular. And Rebirth was one of the biggest perpetrators of this.
    Remember Batman and Robin Eternal, where Cass basically said Dick is the heart, Jason is the fist, and Tim was the brain?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drako View Post
    Yeah, and it really sucks. It's going to get worse since WFA is popular. And Rebirth was one of the biggest perpetrators of this.
    Remember Batman and Robin Eternal, where Cass basically said Dick is the heart, Jason is the fist, and Tim was the brain?
    Or how Tynion used the Robins in that arc where Tim came back in his 'Tec run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drako View Post
    Yeah, and it really sucks. It's going to get worse since WFA is popular. And Rebirth was one of the biggest perpetrators of this.
    Remember Batman and Robin Eternal, where Cass basically said Dick is the heart, Jason is the fist, and Tim was the brain?
    I think that aproach is (when done right) still better than what we curently where the writers all seem want to hammer down that "their Robin" is the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aahz View Post
    Not really.

    He had only anger issue at the beginning, when he discovered that Two Face killed his Father, which he overcame within the same story, and close to the end of Starlin's run, leading up to DitF. And it wasn't really like Bruce was that much better during that run (just read Batman #414).

    And considering the cases where that happend I'm not sure the other Robins would have taken that much better.
    Jason's time as Robin was hard for a child. The whole story with the diplomat's son everyone remembers is the same story he discovers the victim's corpse after she kills herself, iirc. Then, you have The Cult, which was one hell of a trip. Heck, even pre-Crisis he had all that mess with Nocturna and finding his parents were... eaten by alligators, I think it was (it's been a while, may be missremembering).

    Tim had it tough too, eventually. But Jason's time, as short as it was, it went ver hard and with very little support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaresh View Post
    Jason's time as Robin was hard for a child. The whole story with the diplomat's son everyone remembers is the same story he discovers the victim's corpse after she kills herself, iirc. Then, you have The Cult, which was one hell of a trip.
    You had than also multiple cases in a row where Batman's methods simply failed because the villains were either to powerfull (Blackfire and KGBeast) or got away for legal reasons (Dumpster Killer and Diplomat's son), and than you had of course also Joker crippling Barbara during that time, I don't think Dick or Tim had ever to go through something like that during their early time as Robin.

    The Cult was particularly horrific, and probably the worst thing that went down in Gotham in continuity at that point, and for quite some time afterwards.

    And KGBeast killed iirc almost 100 people during "10 Nights of the Beast" which is likely by far the highest body during a single story up to that point.

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    From the last set of books I read, Tim had to deal with Azrael and Bane plus Gotham got hit super COVID and then destroyed by an earthquake the next year.
    "Cable was right!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triniking1234 View Post
    From the last set of books I read, Tim had to deal with Azrael and Bane plus Gotham got hit super COVID and then destroyed by an earthquake the next year.
    The Cult imo still way worse imo.

    Also Tim wasn't that effected by those events, or at least didn't wittness a lot of the really ugly stuff, he iirc didn't came that much in contact with Azrael and Bane during Knightfall, was himself one of the ones who got "super COVID" and was mostly not in Gotham during No Man's Land.
    And in the End Bruce allways did win and his moral code allways woreked, which wasn't the case during Jason's time as Robin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The World View Post
    Are people still pushing the ninja turtles narrative with the robins?
    It's the price we pay for having multiple robins

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    Quote Originally Posted by WonderNight View Post
    It's the price we pay for having multiple robins
    We had the same number of Robins before the New 52 and it wasn't like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aahz View Post
    Not really.

    He had only anger issue at the beginning, when he discovered that Two Face killed his Father, which he overcame within the same story, and close to the end of Starlin's run, leading up to DitF. And it wasn't really like Bruce was that much better during that run (just read Batman #414).

    And considering the cases where that happend I'm not sure the other Robins would have taken that much better.
    There's another early hint at Jason's anger issues in Batman #402-403. Fans didn't invent the idea out of thin air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drako View Post
    We had the same number of Robins before the New 52 and it wasn't like this.
    Damian wasn’t brand new then and Jason was crazy so they were not in their Qartet phase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleGlovez View Post
    There's another early hint at Jason's anger issues in Batman #402-403. Fans didn't invent the idea out of thin air.
    Maybe but it wasn't a constant thing and it is not like the other Robins or even Bruce himself never showed a behaviour like that.

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    I don't entirely understand why there is 4 Robins narrative in the first place. Two of them haven't been Robins in decades and most of the stories that feature all 4 of them feel forced because there is not much reason for them to be involved in the same storylines.

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